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What measuring system?[edit]

I was interested in the auto industry, but couldn't find what system they measure in, or when. Same deal at "Soviet Union". The infobox here has everything, but I couldn't find inches vs centimeters or miles vs kilometers. Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 16:22, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

They use metric. For information on historic usage see Chinese units of measurement. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 16:28, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Wow, is that complex? I'll try to figure it out, but it sounds like anything anywhere. Plus politics.
"Chinese units" isn't even in "See also". There is so much info there, let people know about it?
Specific question: what would a Soviet license built truck (Jiefang CA 30) built between 1958 and 1986 have used?
Thank you for your time. Sammy D III (talk) 17:05, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
The units in the article I referred you to are largely historic but some are still used in day to day life. In manufacturing, they are not used at all so they don't need to be mentioned in the article. As for the Soviet truck, much as I hate to say it, I have no idea. Maybe you could ask at WP:RUSSIA. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 17:11, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I am still thinking that measuring system should be somewhere, probably infoboxes. You can know what side of the street they drive on, but not how far (miles vs meters). Still, I didn't see it at any other country, either. Oh well.

I checked Russia, I'm in over my head, but will probably poke around some more. I sort of thought that China and the USSR auto industry were neglected, not just here, but in my whole country. I remember doing that to Japan, times sure change.

Again, thank you so much for your time. Sammy D III (talk) 18:16, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

See Metrication. Except for a few specialised things like pints of beer, automotive wheel diameters in inches and pins on semiconductor packages at 1/10 inch spacing, almost everyone is now using metric. Only three countries are still mainly using the Imperial system: the US, Liberia and Myanmar. Pashley (talk) 16:28, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2014[edit]

original: and Boeing expects that China's fleet of active commercial aircraft in China will grow from 1,910 to 2011 to 5,980 in 2031

should be: and Boeing expects that China's fleet of active commercial aircraft in China will grow from 1,910 in 2011 to 5,980 in 2031

what is changed: 1,910 to 2011 ->1,910 in 2011

BTW. I'm behind a corporate network(proxy), so unblock my IP, your bureaucratic idiot!

abryl 02:17, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done OccultZone (Talk) 02:35, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Land area?[edit]

The article currently says China is the 2nd largest country and gives a citation. List of countries and dependencies by area puts it 3rd, with Canada 2nd and US 4th. I have also seen China placed 4th, after the US. To some extent, this is a matter of definition, depending on whether you include Taiwan in China, Puerto Rico in the US, how you count lakes, ...

This probably does not matter much; China, Canada and the US are all within 5% of each other at 9.5-10 million km2 and no-one else is close; Russia is way up at 15+ and #5 Brazil around 8.5. On the other hand, it would be nice to be consistent. Currently, both China & Canada articles say they are 2nd, US says it is 3rd or 4th.

Worth fixing, I think. Pashley (talk) 16:15, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Propose a summary then? OccultZone (Talk) 16:27, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
It says ' second-largest country by land area' which it is if you look at the relevant column of List of countries and dependencies by area. The US and (especially) Canada have large bodies of inland water which largely account for the difference. See also the detailed footnotes of List of countries and dependencies by area which explain in far more detail than most people need why the rankings can be inconsistent.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 16:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 July 2014[edit]

Reichs Kanzler von Nationaler Sozialismus KaiserReichTalk 04:48, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sam Sailor Sing 06:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't think that the PLA should be in the"Military"[edit]

The PLA is ruled by The CPC,not the PRC(link:[1],simplified Chinese).So maybe it should be moved to the CPC-- パンツァー VI-IIFu7ラジオ❂In the Republic of China 103rd.民國103年 01:51, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

The Communist Party is a PRC party. Since, as you claim, the PLA is ruled by the CPC, the PLA has every right to be mentioned here. TLA 3x ♭ 17:17, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Romanization[edit]

The pinyin romanization for 中國 appears is my screen as Zhōngguò but when I copy-paste it it appears as Zhōngguó. A glitch or something? Gheiratina (Touch~^) 01:28, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Zhōngguó, with the upward sloping accent for the second tone over the last letter is correct and is what I see in the first line. It sounds like you're having a display problem. There are known problems with Firefox with certain settings. See Template talk:Zh#Latn problem. I've not checked the newest version but I don't think it's fixed, so you may have to change browsers, change settings or put up with it.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 01:35, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Is it only the guó on this article or do other ó on other pages display the same? Can you post which OS and web browser you are viewing on so that we can try to recreate the bug for ourselves? Rincewind42 (talk) 04:02, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Windows 7 x64, Mozilla Firefox 31.0. The Mínguó in the article for Taiwan is displayed correctly, but appears to be a different font. Gheiratina (Touch~^) 22:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

China is not a "socialist state"[edit]

Apparently the non-sense about the term "socialist state" in Wikipedia has gone to its logical extreme and it is used to describe even China as a "socialist state", merely because its constitution says so and a bunch of guys agreed to it in the talk page. Since when does a primary source beat both common sense and multiple reliable sources and, which contend that China's system is, obviously, capitalism? Of course now all of you guys are going to use common arguments like "well, if the state constitutionally describes as socialism then it is a socialist state" etc. etc. Oh please. I would rather not have any of this. Are there even any reliable sources published after the 2000s (up to date) describing China as a "socialist state"? Zozs (talk) 15:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

The official line courtesy of the CPC is that the country is governed according to "socialism with Chinese characteristics." Quite what that means is anybody's guess.  Philg88 talk 15:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
It means "capitalism" and sources anti-socialist, socialist, and neutral alike all agree on that. Zozs (talk) 16:17, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
@Philg88, Zozs: It means Marxism adapted to Chinese circumstances, and officially China is in the primary stage of socialism, which contains high number of capitalist elements. The only reason why China is still socialist (according to the CPC itself), is that the socialist/public sector still dominates the economy (and "guides" the market forces)... Its in line with Lenin's thinking: "State capitalism is capitalism which we shall be able to restrict, the limits of which we shall be able to fix". China is still socialist, according to the CPC, since "socialist tendencies" still dominate, but that capitalist tendencies are very much alive (and kept alive by the CPC)... This line of thinking is very communist, just read the party line of the Romanian Communist Party explaining why Romania had gone from a people's democracy to a socialist democracy out of nowhere. --TIAYN (talk) 07:47, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

form of government[edit]

The form of government of China is the people's democratic dictatorship. It doesn't make any sense to describe it as a Marxist-Leninist single-party state, or a Single-party socialist state.. First, Marxism-Leninism is an ideology, single-party state is not a form of government (but rather a description on how a state is ruled) and socialist state is not a form of government either (but in Western discourse, it may have been generalized to mean such. However, not even the WP article refers to the concept of a "socialist state" as a form of government. It makes as much sense to refer to the US as a capitalist state... In keeping in line with the convention in articles about democratic capitalist states, China's form of government should be referred to as people's democratic dictatorship (directly borrowed, or evolved from the Soviet concept of people's democracy) --TIAYN (talk) 07:47, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

I agree.  Philg88 talk 08:04, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2014[edit]

There are 6 Chinese descendants who have won Nobel Physics Prize and 2 for Nobel Chemistry Prize, so the original data is underestimated. 6 Physics winners are: Chen-ning Yang, Zheng-dao Li, Zhao-zhong Ding, Cui Qi, Steven Chu, Gao Kun 2 Chemistry winners are: Yuanzhe Li, Rodger Tsien IsaacLi124 (talk) 07:53, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- ferret (talk) 18:11, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Bias[edit]

@Zozs, Bridies, FutureTrillionaire: I find it interesting that everyone here on WP has decided to accuse that every ideological concept conceived by China is propaganda, while Western concepts, such as liberal democracy, constitutionalism and so on are treated as facts (even if in countries like China, they are scorned)... The people's democratic dictatorship is not a propaganda concept, but is Marxist terminology at its best; PRC is democratic because its based around the majority (the CPC being the party of the working class and the common masses), its a dictatorship because (as in all societies, according to Marxism, one class rules the state) and its the People's state because the CPC is based upon (as mentioned) the working class and the common masses. You may not believe it as such (and I don't believe it either), but I find it strange that the Chinese people and Communist cadres sacrificed their lives for this idea if it was merely propaganda. They believe in it. And WP does not have the right to claim that the Marxist idea of people's democratic dictatorship is any more nonsense then liberal idea of constitutitionalism... Of course, this is not surprising, this article from the New Statesman proves my point. At last, its not like communism is dead; it officially rules four countries, while one (North Korea) calls themselves Juchites. Its not like communism is gone in Western countries; its an electoral force in Portugal, France, Germany, Czech Republic, Ukraine, Russia, Greece, Slovenia so on, and large in Latin America in Brazil, Chile, Venezuela. Therefore, to claim that all communist terminology is just all propaganda is biased, not neutral, and also shows a clear bias that you have to liberalism (everything else is propaganda with the exception of our system).. Communism isn't dead and WP shouldn't treat it as such either.

At last, Marxism-Leninism is an ideology. You don't write that the US is a Liberal democratic presidential system do you? No, why do we treat socialist states differently? Single-party state is not a political system, a form of government and does not the answer the question of what China is.. Therefore, the correct answer is either "Socialist republic", "Socialist republic of the people's democratic dictatorship" or the "People's democratic dictatorship". --TIAYN (talk) 07:55, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

None of those though are terms commonly used in English. "socialist republic" sort of makes sense, but is far too vague. "people's democratic dictatorship" doesn't even make sense. It can't be both democratic and a dictatorship, they have opposite meanings, while "people" here doesn't mean anything. "people's democratic dictatorship" seems to be something the CPC calls itself; maybe it works better in Chinese as it doesn't really work in English, and is just confusing if used to describe the political system.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 08:12, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
I disagree that "people's democratic dictatorship" doesn't make sense. It's a bit Chinglisy but I think it gets across the meaning of the people dictating how the state is run, which is of course nonsense in actuality, but it is the way that the Chinese government itself describes the political framework of the country. Just my 2 RMB's worth.  Philg88 talk 08:52, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
@JohnBlackburne: I agree with Philg88, its nonsense, but thats how they view their own state. At last, how is "socialist republic" vague? Tell me of one socialist republic which hasn't introduced single-party rule? You can't think of any because not one modern case of it exists (post-1917 all declared socialist states have had single-party rule or one-man rule) ... At last, democracy and dictatorship has opposite meaning in liberal terminology and not in Marxist terminology. According to Marxism, every society created in history so far has been a class dictatorship of some kind .. The whole point of communism is to create a dictatorship of the proletariat, since the proletariat are the biggest class (it forms the majority). As with democracy, the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is a dictatorship against all other classes but is a democracy for the bourgeoisie. Similarly, the dictatorship of the proletariat is supposed too, in theory, be the dictatorship of the proletariat which safeguards the democratic rights of the proletariat (hence why communist regimes talked about "proletarian democracy"). .. --TIAYN (talk) 09:05, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
"socialist republic" is vague as "socialist" is an imprecise term applied to many systems - right-wing American commentators use it to describe a wide range of things on the left they disagree with such as Obamacare, which to anyone outside the US is still a market-led right-wing healthcare system. "republic" is either meaningless, as many states self-identify as republics or misleading, as it more precisely means a government of elected representatives. The problem with both "socialist republic" and "people's democratic dictatorship" is they seem to be ones the PRC chooses to identify itself. I.e. they are examples of propaganda, not the correct political terms for the system.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 09:21, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm struggling to take these histrionics seriously. Nevertheless, I also think "socialist" is a dubious term to apply to China, though less so than the other archaic guff suggested above. Single party (I'm inclined to drop "state", if it necessary to make it clear we're referring to the government; it redirects to the same article, which also has "one party system" bolded in the first sentence), which is far more prevalent in the secondary literature (think it's biased? Tough), is the appropriate term. If one thinks nominal Communism is not being afforded recognition, I'm not opposed to adding "Communist" as a second term, as someone did to the Vietnam article recently. bridies (talk) 09:12, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

@Bridies: This article should be treated similar to Syria; it is referred to as a "Unitary dominant-party semi-presidential republic". China is a "Socialist republic of the people's democratic dictatorship".. Adding "Communist" wouldn't help at all since "Communist republic" is not a form of government according to anyone, Socialist republic isn't either. However socialist republic is a definition of what form a state it is (and both communists and non-communists alike agree on that), but does not describe the political system. Therefore, the right terminology is "Socialist republic of the people's democratic dictatorship" is more correct. Its more correct then Marxist-Leninist socialist republic. Single-party socialist republic doesn't make since you are mentioning the same thing twice; every post-1917 socialist state has had single-party rule (with the exception of maybe North Korea which has royal family rule, but that state formalyl has one-party rule).. --TIAYN (talk) 09:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
I must add that the People's congress system in China is based upon the people's democratic dictatorship. So the people's democratic dictatorship describes the legislative system in China. --TIAYN (talk) 09:29, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
If "communist" were added, it would just be "communist", not "communist republic"; I, personally, am happy for it to say "single party" rather than "single party socialist XYZ"; there are prevalent secondary sources which will describe either the government or the state as "single party". bridies (talk) 09:33, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Many of these arguments contain some logic, but it really doesn't matter what kind of government you think China has. What matters is what reliable sources say about the matter. Beyond that we have to make adjustments because of context or because our purposes and language is slightly different from those sources. Single party state is notheless both the common way to refer to the system and reasonably accurate. Ultimately it's good to be concise here. There's no way we are going to explain their governmental system in a few words, thats what the body of the article is for. The label used at syria is ridiculously convoluted. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 09:30, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

@Metal.lunchbox: The problem with this line of thinking is that you're saying the sources within Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, China, Syria etc are not trustworthy when defining China's political system. Even if those states are dictatorships, its still a view they hold. --TIAYN (talk) 12:03, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Ah, yes, Vietnam and Laos, with their world-renowned scholarship and universities, and fine, independent media. bridies (talk) 12:49, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bridies: Independent media doesn't really mean anything, its a view. Its a view held by those states. And you would have thought a view supported by a state was more notable then a view supported by some in the free press. Wouldn't you think? .. And stating that because these states are dictatorships their views don't count is BIAS. And state, somehow, that the views pronounced in the free world are somehow of a higher standard because they are expressed in the free world is wrong.. This smells like a "we always right, they always wrong" scenario.--TIAYN (talk) 12:53, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Uh, no, it's rather central, since Wikipedia is entirely based on reliable, independent scholarship. We don't cover the views of states, we cover the views of sources, and sources are not reliable third party ones on the subject of a government if they are owned by that government (!). (And similarly, if you are talking about, for example, Vietnamese media commenting on China's fundamental political system, it is subject to censorship on that subject and neither independent nor reliable). bridies (talk) 13:04, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bridies: First, that's biased. Secondly, that doesn't make sense, since WP routinely uses Chinese sources.. This article, a GA, uses Xinhua, People's Daily and more. --TIAYN (talk) 18:23, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
It's not biased. There are Chinese state sources, yes, but the only relevant content I can see that is sourced to them is to give the numerous neologisms the Chinese leaders have espoused, as well as names of the bits and pieces of the bureaucracy; as primary sources, essentially, and not secondary analysis. This info could - and should - just as easily be sourced to scholarly secondary sources. bridies (talk) 18:57, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Single-party state too socialist republic/state[edit]

@Zozs, Bridies, JohnBlackburne: Per a quick google search, a search for "China" "socialist republic" gives 1,900,000 hits, while a search for "China" "single-party state" gives only 386,000. Per WP guidelines, we should use what the sources use (and the majority of people on the internet seem to "socialist republic" and only "socialist republic" to describe China.. A search for "China" "single-party socialist state" gives hit 362,000.. A search for "China" "Marxist-Leninist single-party state" gives 388,000 hits. Its clear what most people use. --TIAYN (talk) 19:42, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

"A quick google search" is entirely useless. bridies (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm on the second page of that first Google search (telling me less than 500k hits, not 1.9m). I've got a dictionary entry for "Socialist Republic of Vietnam" and the address of the "Embassy of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka" in China. Highly relevant. bridies (talk) 19:59, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bridies: Why? A quick google search is commonly used on WP to find out if an article is notable or not. A quick google search should then suffice to see what term is most commonly used to describe China. What is clear is that no establish scholar as I know of (if there are some, they are the minority) use the term "Single-party socialist state" to describe socialist systems , and never "Marxist-Leninist single-party state".. They do, however, describe them as having a Marxist-Leninist ideology and having single-party rule, but adding the terms together without thinking its controversial is suspect. --TIAYN (talk) 20:01, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bridies: But I agree, its not reliable. A search on Google Books (where you only access books, articles, newspapers etc), more reliable, gives 8 hits for "China" "Marxist-Leninist single-party state", gives 63,000 hits for "China" "socialist state", a search for "China" "single-party socialist state" gives 90 hits, "China" "single-party state" gives 2,450, while a search for "China" "single-party system" gives 17,000 hits, a search for "China" "socialist system" gives 96,900 hits, a search for "China" "Marxist-Leninist state" gives little more then 4600 hits.. Google books is much more specific.
I think it's worth reading parts of this in the context of the current discussion. Multiple Chinese language sources do exist to verify China's governmental ideology. The fact that they're not in English, per the guideline on reliable sources, is irrelevant. Although such references may not be accessible to the majority of English readers because of the language barrier, Wikipedia policy allows for their acceptance in good faith. We should not try to foist Western political analogies onto something that is considerably different from Western systems of government.  Philg88 talk 20:11, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
@Philg88: The problem is, as Birdies has stated, he doesn't believe we can use Chinese sources because China is a dictatorship (and lacks a free press). Therefore, according to his own statement, the only way to interpret/define the Chinese political system is to use Western sources, and Western sources only (that is, from liberal democratic countries), and define China from a liberal democratic perspective. --TIAYN (talk) 20:14, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I am again looking at first page of the "China socialist system" (or similar) Google Books search, and again: almost all of them refer to economics, one is referring to the 1950s - Google results with no context are again just useless. Both the strawmen posted above are spurious, and further indicative of TIAYN's descent into bad faith accusations and personal attacks. The relevant argument was that Chinese state media are simply not secondary sources on this subject, and academic sources within China both tend to be of lower quality and subject to censorship (even if this may not disqualify them per se). PhilG's suggestion that this is a linguistic issue and that Western analogies are being shoehorned into the article is not true: anyone remotely familiar with Communism and its nomenclature will be familiar with its Western lineage (nope, dictatorship-as-democracy is not a Chinese linguistic concept). Finally, the suggestion that all sources coming out of the West are liberal is preposterous, and in fact much of Western academia is notoriously to the left; second, one is aware that Chinese academics actually publish fairly widely in Western scholarly journals, right? Finally, can we not just begin a genuine debate on the subject, by citing actual sources with context? bridies (talk) 20:27, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bridies: Liberal in the sense that the majority of people in democracies actually support LIBERAL democracy, the democratic system which formally exists in all of Europe (maybe with the exception of Belarus) and North America. Iliberal in the sense that they oppose liberal democracy (if a person is to the left doesn't really matter in this sense of the word liberal). The political system of all these countries are based on liberalism; the question of left and right in democracies don't often question the legitimacy of the political system itself, but instead the economic system. You see, different things... "anyone remotely familiar with Communism and its nomenclature will be familiar with its Western lineage (nope, dictatorship-as-democracy is not a Chinese linguistic concept)" it may not be a Chinese linguistics term, but thats what they use to describe their own system. That the West doesn't support this position is another topic to say the least; but thats not surprising, since in the West the idea of liberal democracy has hegemony and in China (and in other countries), illiberal ideas have hegemony (or at least looks like they have hegemony on the surface - you never know how rotten it is until the surface breaks, e.g. USSR) in China (and other countries). --TIAYN (talk) 20:33, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Again, you keep referring to states and not sources: there are many - again, notoriously many - in Western academia who are not liberal democrats, and who are Marxists, anarchists and whatever else. bridies (talk) 20:45, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I also disagree that illiberal ideas are hegemonic in China (or in Vietnam etc.). bridies (talk) 20:48, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bridies: its a reason why that, here on WP, we don't discuss if the US is a bourgeoisie democracy or not, because liberal ideas have hegemony (and are not threatened by Marxist ideology, Anarchist theory or any such thing; it was, however, during certain parts of the Cold War)... But back to the point. Google Books is as good as any; socialist state is predominantly used more then Marxist-Leninist state and "Marxist-Leninist single-party state" and "Socialist single-party state". Therefore, socialist state should be used. .. As Metal Lunchbox said "Many of these arguments contain some logic, but it really doesn't matter what kind of government you think China has. What matters is what reliable sources say about the matter "Many of these arguments contain some logic, but it really doesn't matter what kind of government you think China has. What matters is what reliable sources say about the matter." What matters are what scholars say, and scholars use socialist state. If we are going to try to find a generalized way of what is most commonly used, a search on Google Books is the best I can think of (can you think of anything better)? --TIAYN (talk) 20:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I never said iliberal ideas had hegemony in China (said it looked like that on the surface). --TIAYN (talk) 20:57, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Try doing more than looking at the alleged surface, then. bridies (talk) 20:58, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
@Bridies: You are looking at the surface; you say you're version is more acceptable because its more commonly used, but haven't been able to put one single reason for why it should stay. You're argument is based on this; me wrong, this better. But you havn't been able to define why you're version is better (with an argument based upon reliable sources, or sources at all). --TIAYN (talk) 21:04, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

It takes longer to give an actual citation and an indication of context, as opposed to a search result consisting of plainly bullshit entries. Here are half a dozen cites - all I have time for at the moment; these are neverthless to peer-reviewed, academic journals and give an indication of the credence of "single party" (and I do not care what if anything goes after that), in reference to either/both (given TIAYN's current attempt to change the template itself) China's government and/or political system, in a broad range of contexts and with a broad set of scholars, and is better than TIAYN's reverting on the strength of zero cited sources.

  • Malesky, E., Abrami, R., ; Zheng, Y. (2011) “Institutions and Inequality in Single-Party Regimes: A Comparative Analysis of Vietnam and China”. Comparative Politics.
  • Schubert, G. (2008) “One-Party Rule and the Question of Legitimacy in Contemporary China: preliminary thoughts on setting up a new research agenda”. Journal of Contemporary China, 17 (54).
  • Smith, B (2005) “Life of the Party: The Origins of Regime Breakdown and Persistence under Single-Party Rule”. World Politics, 57 (3). [yes, China is discussed in this context]
  • Roy, D. (1994) “Singapore, China, and the “Soft Authoritarian” Challenge”. Asian Survey, 34 (3). [“Beijing government claims a single-party system is required to maintain stability and unity”]
  • Lo, C. W. H., Yip, P. K. T. Y. & Cheung, K. C. (2000) “The Regulatory Style of Environmental Governance in China”. Public Administration and Development, 20. [“It is shown that China's being a single-party regime with a “rule of persons” tradition has heavily shaped its environmental governance”]
  • Sato, H. (2006) “Housing inequality and housing poverty in urban China in the late 1990s”. China Economic Review, 17. [“The differences in the impacts of meritocracy and political credentialism by business/nonbusiness sectors seem to reflect the characteristic of the Chinese-style systemic transition, in which marketization is progressing under the single-party system.”] bridies (talk) 21:49, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
  • The "socialist state" refs I've checked from the Google searches - those which aren't completely irrelevant, like works referring to '40s - appear to discuss the actual (welfare, hukou etc.) state apparatus, and not the basic central government system. Some indication of otherwise might be nice. bridies (talk) 11:19, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

@Bridies: To quote another user (at the Talk:South Yemen article;

I am no expert; however, from the little I do know, that statement gives two, main important pieces of this puzzle. Those are Marxist–Leninist and socialist state. Just a scan of those two articles can lead to truth here. The former describes an ideology, not a type of government, although forms of government may be based upon that ideology. The latter, "socialist state", describes a type/form of government that may be based upon an ideology. Ideologies and types of governments are two different things, aren't they? It would seem that no matter how many sources one may provide, it is how those sources are interpreted that applies here. And they should be interpreted by use of the definitions of "ideology" and "type of government". When a source refers to a country as "Marxist–Leninist", the source refers to the ideology, not to the type of government. I could be wrong, but it strongly appears that when the ibox parameter is "government_type", this country's entry should be "socialist state".

Just replace Marxism-Leninism with single-party and ideology with system/institution.. A single-party system is not a form of government. --TIAYN (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Secondly, see Template:Infobox_former_country/doc#Politics and Template:Infobox country/doc.. It suggests that we either use short terms, such as Socialist republic or go more into depth; socialist state under the people's democratic dictatorship.--TIAYN (talk) 07:10, 27 August 2014 (UTC)