Talk:Christian Bale

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English actor[edit]

It says he's an English actor, even though he was born and grew up in Wales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.251.133.26 (talk) 16:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Just checked, he didn't grow up in Wales (left at a very young age according to sources) and he identifies as English. So there is no error. --Somchai Sun (talk) 19:07, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
He is Welsh I see 197.130.151.217 (talk) 14:30, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
If all you go by is his birthplace and draw your conclusions from that, it's no wonder you're so wrong. Read the article properly. --Somchai Sun (talk) 14:40, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Infobox image[edit]

So, this user insists on replacing the infobox image. Problem is, the new image is full of artifacts, it is blown out and the colors are distorted. What does everyone else think? Nymf (talk) 14:06, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Undeniably it is a fairly poor quality photograph. It's functional, but I don't see any strong reason to replace the older one. --Somchai Sun (talk) 15:01, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2014[edit]

{{Edit semi-protected||answered=yes} Readd into the "Early life" section that Bale grew up in Portugal. It was previously mentioned but this edit removed it. Additional source to complement the Metro one, if needed: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/starsandstories/8271873/Christian-Bale-Yes-it-is-the-same-guy.html. 92.40.249.46 (talk) 09:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: This article is no longer Semi-Protected, so you can make these edits yourself, but please cite reliable sources to back up your edit, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:18, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

British[edit]

Mr Bail can say what he likes, he can't truthfuly say that the nationality is English on his passport he can only truthfully say that it says British (assuming he hasn't taken citsenship of another country).

Therefore he is British, of Welsh birth and English decent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlefixer (talkcontribs) 23:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Community consensus is firmly against labelling everyone from the UK as "British" in the lede due to the major problems it would cause in regards to nationalists - and someone's personal identity is important, can I mention also that England, Wales and Scotland are nations in their own right? And he isn't just of "English" descent he IS English. His Welsh (Wales) birth is completely unimportant and irrelevant to that. Basically what we have now are Wales-based IP's changing it to "British" because they know "Welsh" will not be accepted - it's basically nationalist point-scoring. --Somchai Sun (talk) 23:15, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
It may be the case that people from 'Wales-based IP's [are] changing it to "British" because they know "Welsh" will not be accepted', but the fact that one argument in favour of a course of action is invalid does not invalidate that course of action. 'British' is by far the most elegant solution to describe the nationality of someone with birthplace and/or heritage in/from multiple parts of the UK. This is not a matter of 'labelling everyone from the UK as "British"', but of labeling this particular Brit as British. Whatever the 'community consensus', plenty of figures from across the UK (and plenty who are unambiguously English) are referred to, correctly, as British. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Meek_%28author%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Thompson and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imelda_Staunton . That Bale has described himself as English (as opposed to Welsh) in no way contradicts describing him as British, which I have changed because it offers by far the most elegant (and least contentious) solution to this problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisHutchinson (talkcontribs) 10:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
I don't object to him being described as British, but using his place of birth in deciding what he should be described as really isn't acceptable for the lead (the lead is a summarisation of the main article, and his birthplace has little notability) - he has made it clear he is not Welsh, just like my father is not a Cypriot -and also, English is not unambiguous in this case! But again, no objection to him being described as British in principal - I have however reverted you based on the fact that you made an edit which went against a very long term consensus. Somchai Sun (talk) 14:01, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
People have been flogging this dead horse for years now. He's English. Period. Refer to the 20 archived discussions as to why. Nymf (talk) 15:57, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Actor's BIrthplace[edit]

It states in the article that Bale is an English actor when, he was born in Wales. He is, therefore a Welsh actor and not English! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.226.90.6 (talk) 15:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done Please see the numerous discussions on Christian Bale's nationality. --Somchai Sun (talk) 15:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Selected Filmography[edit]

Why!? What is the need to have a "selected filmography?" I haven't seen any other actors with selected filmographies, there's already a paragraph at the beginning of the article which outlines some of his most famous roles. Plus, its confusing; when one scrolls down the page to check an actors filmography you expect to either see the table of films and/or television, or (when this table would be inconveniently large) a link to a separate article devoted to the filmography. So why would there be a table just repeating what has already been said? It is easy to, on first glance, confuse this as his entire filmography and that there are films missing.

I restate that there is no need for the "selected filmography", request that the table be removed, and hope that the article can return to the usual format for actor's filmographies.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Superdupercranman (talkcontribs) 03:20, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2014[edit]

Wanted to add a new picture.

Az123rv (talk) 16:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

It would be useful to know which picture you would like to add :P--Somchai Sun (talk) 17:34, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

In one place in the article, it says he has two sisters. Under Personal life, it says three. Which is it?

Also, a cite to WENN/IMDb under Personal life is not in any sense an RS. It's an anonymously claimed gossip item and not even from the original tabloid that claimed it. --209.122.114.237 (talk) 21:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

That "selected filmography" is pure POV. Who "selected" the films? What are the objective criteria, since otherwise it's subjective? And if there's a filmography "main article," that link is all that should be there. --209.122.114.237 (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Indeed...such a section could only ever be someone's own POV. It has been removed by User:Nymf. Thanks. Somchai Sun (talk) 11:02, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

nationality[edit]

Christian Bale is a Welsh actor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.157.103.109 (talk) 04:03, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Proof?--Somchai Sun (talk) 09:20, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

The famous or unfamous "Terminator Salvation incident"[edit]

I hope expressing myself correctly, because my language is spanish. And that's my question. I love Christian Bale as an actor (he has made fantastic movies), and surfing the net I read this page and I'm surprised of the big amount of space it's dedicated to this item. Is it really so important to fill about 10% of the article??? Perhaps it`s because I'm from spain and here we're used to see people very very angry and famous ones too (perhaps it's because of our hot climate or hot temper...). I would like someone to explain me why is this incident so important. Thanx.Ladymenta (talk) 21:07, 17 February 2015 (UTC)