Talk:Christian Bale

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Birthplace[edit]

Christian Bale was not actually born in Pembrokeshire as it did not exist at the time of his birth. He was actually born in Dyfed which existed between 1974 and 1996. 92.6.170.166 (talk) 12:45, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

WRONG. Dyfed was created on 1st April 1974, after Bale was born in January 1974. He was born in Pembrokeshire. The last edit by CH7i5 needs to be undone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin344 (talkcontribs) 09:02, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Bale is Welsh not English.[edit]

Christian Bale was born in Haverfordwest which is in Wales, but the page states that he is an English actor. I believe this should be changed to Welsh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rthepowerd (talkcontribs) 20:54, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Did you not read what has been agreed above? Yes he was born in Wales, but he identifies as English. Another example of this would be with Mila Kunis where the article states she is American, but also says she was born in 'Ukrainian SSR, Soviet Union', that doesn't mean shes a Ukrainian Actress because that is not what she identifies as, she identifies as an American Actress. Bale is the same, he identifies as English.CH7i5 (talk) 14:05, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 June 2013[edit]

The latest change by CH7i5 should be reversed. Dyfed was created in April 1974 after Bale was born in January 1974, therefore he was born in Pembrokeshire, not Dyfed. Martin344 (talk) 09:14, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I typically do not use a WP article to establish a source but this one seems appropriate. Dyfed did not exist until April 1974, AFTER Christian was born, so Yes check.svg Done. Jguy TalkDone 00:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Since Christian Bale was born in Wales, wouldn't he be considered Welsh, as opposed to English, as mentioned early in the page? I don't want to make the change myself as I'm not sure this is correct, but I wanted to make the potential issue known in case it needs to be changed. (Still new to editing on Wikepedia, so please excuse any mistakes made here.)

dbarak (talk) 17:05, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

See the numerous discussions above.--ukexpat (talk) 17:12, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
How about "Welsh-born English?" It actually sounds better. He's born in Wales but identifies as an Englishman in the same way Chris Jericho the wrestler was born in the U.S. state of New York but identifies himself as Canadian due to him being raised there most of his life. Hitmonchan (talk) 15:47, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Someone's birth place should not be emphasized in the lede unless it is relevant to the person's notability. See WP:OPENPARA. Nymf talk to me 15:49, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be confusing for readers to read the introduction of the article and then read the infobox about the actor and see that one states that Bale is English while the infobox denotes that he is, in fact, Welsh? The powers-that-be on Wikipedia should comment on this more often, otherwise people would make edits and then get warned or banned because they didn't "follow the rules." Hitmonchan (talk) 15:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
The ibox doesn't do that, it just says he was born in Wales.--ukexpat (talk) 16:08, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 31 July 2013[edit]

he is welsh, not english 92.13.83.117 (talk) 12:01, 31 July 2013 (UTC) donna

Facepalm3.svg Facepalm - not done, see the ad nauseam discussions above and in the archives.--ukexpat (talk) 13:58, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Surprise surprise the IP is located in Wales. I remember this argument going back years, very boring - very old. 85.210.100.39 (talk) 20:51, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

English actor[edit]

It says he's an English actor, even though he was born and grew up in Wales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.251.133.26 (talk) 16:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Just checked, he didn't grow up in Wales (left at a very young age according to sources) and he identifies as English. So there is no error. --Somchai Sun (talk) 19:07, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Nationality Change[edit]

Please change 'an English actor' to 'a Welsh actor' because he was born in Wales and is clearly Welsh not English. 86.164.35.51 (talk) 17:06, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done. See the archives for why. Nymf (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
There are now a total of eight of these requests on the current talk page! (If I counted correctly in my post-work, tired state!) --Somchai Sun (talk) 19:40, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2013[edit]

Christian Bale is a Welsh actor, not an English actor. Pbater (talk) 22:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done Please consult previous discussions on this "issue". Somchai Sun (talk) 23:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Infobox image[edit]

So, this user insists on replacing the infobox image. Problem is, the new image is full of artifacts, it is blown out and the colors are distorted. What does everyone else think? Nymf (talk) 14:06, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Undeniably it is a fairly poor quality photograph. It's functional, but I don't see any strong reason to replace the older one. --Somchai Sun (talk) 15:01, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2014[edit]

{{Edit semi-protected||answered=yes} Readd into the "Early life" section that Bale grew up in Portugal. It was previously mentioned but this edit removed it. Additional source to complement the Metro one, if needed: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/starsandstories/8271873/Christian-Bale-Yes-it-is-the-same-guy.html. 92.40.249.46 (talk) 09:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: This article is no longer Semi-Protected, so you can make these edits yourself, but please cite reliable sources to back up your edit, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:18, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

British[edit]

Mr Bail can say what he likes, he can't truthfuly say that the nationality is English on his passport he can only truthfully say that it says British (assuming he hasn't taken citsenship of another country).

Therefore he is British, of Welsh birth and English decent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlefixer (talkcontribs) 23:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Community consensus is firmly against labelling everyone from the UK as "British" in the lede due to the major problems it would cause in regards to nationalists - and someone's personal identity is important, can I mention also that England, Wales and Scotland are nations in their own right? And he isn't just of "English" descent he IS English. His Welsh (Wales) birth is completely unimportant and irrelevant to that. Basically what we have now are Wales-based IP's changing it to "British" because they know "Welsh" will not be accepted - it's basically nationalist point-scoring. --Somchai Sun (talk) 23:15, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Actor's BIrthplace[edit]

It states in the article that Bale is an English actor when, he was born in Wales. He is, therefore a Welsh actor and not English! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.226.90.6 (talk) 15:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done Please see the numerous discussions on Christian Bale's nationality. --Somchai Sun (talk) 15:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)