Talk:Christina Aguilera (album)

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Dominguez reference unreliable, should be replaced or deleted[edit]

Background information provided in this article (and many others concerning Aguilera's early work) cites Christina Aguilera: A Star Is Made: The Unauthorized Biography by Pier Dominguez as a reference. While Dominguez appears now to be a doctoral student pursuing serious academic work, I am concerned about the reliability of this particular source (which was published when the author was 19 years old, before the bulk of his academic career had begun). For one thing, parts of its contents read like a fan publication (consider, for example, the following: "The fact that [Madonna] approached Christina instead of Britney for a contribution to her [The Next Best Thing] soundtrack says something about whom she really respects."). Works such as these are generally not considered reliable unless the specific cited material was itself from another reliable publication, such as a newspaper. A close examination of the bibliography to this work reveals that, while some sources cited are indeed reliable, a number of them are gossip media, Internet chatrooms, other unauthorized biographies (such as this particularly confidence-inspiring one) and the like. A newspaper review points out some of the work's factual inaccuracies and inconsistencies. Perhaps most concerning is that personal emails from Shelly Kearns, Aguilera's mother, are frequently cited as sources. However, The New York Times points out that Kearns dismissed the work; if this page, published earlier the same year, was NYT's source, then, even more troublingly, it appears the author did not even attempt to contact Kearns, despite repeatedly citing correspondence with her ("No, I've never heard of these people ... A true journalist who supposedly 'researched' something so well, you'd assume, would have tried to contact us at least once to ask questions..."). Additionally, it is perhaps worth noting that his only previous publication at this point had been released by Writer's Club Press, an author mill with no editorial oversight. This work is published by Colossus Books, which is owned by Amber Communications Group, Inc., which also allows authors to self-publish work for a fee via its Quality Press imprint ("a special service-book packaging imprint for authors who wanted to self-publish their books instead of waiting to gain an interest from mainstream publishers").

In light of these troubling facts and Wikipedia's policy on unreliable biographical information about living people ("Contentious material about living persons ... should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. ... The burden of evidence for any edit on Wikipedia rests with the person who adds or restores material."), particularly the policy on self-published material ("Never use self-published sources ... unless written or published by the subject"), I recommend that all information attached solely to citations of this particular Dominguez work be deleted from this page, or that these citations be replaced with those from reliable works. I would remove them myself if I had access to the edit page for this article. 98.155.5.150 (talk) 01:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reflection first single from the album??[edit]

Reflection has never been released from christina aguilera album its not even included on the album it was released from Mulan soundtrack, genie in a bottle was the first single, change it back!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathiassandell (talk • contribs) 13:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC) exx2,I HAD SEEN YOU LAST YEAR,SO FINE.XUSHIJUN60.206.138.137 (talk) 09:54, 18 February 2013 (UTC) EXX2,I HAD SEEN ADELE IN SHANGHAI LAST YEAR.60.206.138.172 (talk) 09:37, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Certifications[edit]

UK Platinum Certification (Album) 22 July 2013. SONY MUSIC (RCA) Released 06 November 2000

--189.172.88.68 (talk) 00:44, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Track-by-track review[edit]

Simon (talk) 11:22, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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Green tickY All the start class criteria

Green tickY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
Green tickY At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
Green tickY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
Green tickY A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
Green tickY Categorisation at least by artist and year
Green tickY A casual reader should learn something about the album. Andrzejbanas (talk) 08:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To meet the more rigorous criteria of the revised B class, this article needs improved sourcing to help readers verify the accuracy of information. For example, who says it "surpassed industry expectation"? Where is the evidence that she was "immediately labeled Spears' rival"? Additional improvements may also be necessary. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums/Assessment for additional information on B class in album articles. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 21:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 11:40, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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17 million sales seem pretty inflated!![edit]

I don't understand why some fans insisted in put this album as selling 17 million copies worldwide, since it has low sales outside the countries that don't have english as the first language. It was only a Top 10 album in 4 countries, and in Europe, it was certified "only" 1x platinum. Even Clive Davis, in his biography, said that CA sold around 15kk copies and I think that the 14kk number is the more accurate to it. Don't you agree?! See the case of Thriller by Jackson, it has around 44 million copies in certified sales, and after his dead the media begun to say it sold, 100kk, 105kk, 140kk, 150kk... and in the article after a discussion everybody agreed that put the album with 64kk sold is the more close to reality. I think we have to do the same here.--88marcus (talk) 22:25, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think the worldwide sales of 17 million are accurate. According to this;[1]Meddymarl (talk) 03:56, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • The source you pointed out lists the album with 12.8 million pure album sales and 16.8 equivalent album units. Hence, 14 million is already quite generous. Bluesatellite (talk) 09:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just one more thing though, I think this source is legitmate. Along with the fact that the album sold 1.5 million in Europe.[2]Meddymarl (talk) 04:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan[edit]

According to Sony Music Taiwan the album sold over 100,000 in the country by 2002. GabrielDirrty (talk) 17:35, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

17 million worldwide[edit]

  • I think 17 million sold worldwide is accurate.

According to: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]Meddymarl (talk) 21:34, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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