Talk:Church militant and church triumphant
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Dictionary entry? [edit]
This article seems to be just defining a term which in part or in total describes the "Christian Church". Any reason not to just consider this a "dictionary entry" (i.e. inappropriate) and merge it into Christian Church (or some other article)? I agree that there is a significance to the term in Christianity but it's not clear why the term has an article (i.e. it is not clear that the "thing" it describes is different in some important way from the "thing" described elsewhere). --Mcorazao 18:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I vote keep it, maybe flesh it out a bit more, but you come across the terms a lot in old books and I found this helpful. Most people think of a Church as a building or something, and this clarifies otherwise. (71.221.189.99 01:18, 16 September 2007 (UTC))
A good article on its own [edit]
Only the more voluminous dictionaries would have entries for these terms and generally not together. This article discusses the relationship between the two phrases, provides background information and clarifies a concept that would be confusing to the modern observer. This is precisely what people come to wikipedia for. If it got merged into the text of a larger article, there runs the risk of it being edited out to improve the quality of the other article. I'm not swayed by the reasons presented that it should be deleted or merged. I arrived here looking for precisely the information contained in the article. It's a pretty good article, IMHO. 70.51.52.159 04:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Church militant [edit]
This article restricts the terms of Church division to the RC church. However, this language is also used elsewhere. For example, the 1552 BCP (Church of England) (but not the earlier, more tolerant-of-Catholic 1549) refers to "Church militant" after the poor-offering (to make the distinction between the living members (who are then prayed for) and the rest (who are not, and cannot, be prayed for) ). Also, there is no discussion of the usage history of these terms (the reason of my searching for this article). Tobermory (talk) 18:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
the twinkling of an eye [edit]
The article characterizes Protestants as believing that purification is completed in a "twinkling of an eye", referring to 1 Cor 15:52, but this verse is referring to the resurrection of the body. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.242.120 (talk) 23:51, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Name [edit]
I think this article should be moved to Church Universal. That is the first bold name used in the article. — Reinyday, 17:34, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm, that's a redirect to this article, which I think has an awful title, but good content. (I added the link to Reinyday's comment) Huw Powell (talk) 15:53, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Ordering of Terms [edit]
I recommend the order of the three divisions be changed to reflect the natural progression through time: 1. Church Militant 2. Church Suffering 3. Church Triumphant Atticusfinch80 (talk) 10:16, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Bad links [edit]
Two of the image links are dead links Kenfree (talk) 03:20, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
