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It should be, but since the Scottish clans ressembled small tribes, the distinction is blurry. I have translated ätt as "clan" since the definition oeved to start in the time of Vikings, it is also German, Irish, Greek, and many other cultures.
If the editor can supply sources it can be rewritten and reinstated. 18.104.22.168 20:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC
- Clan means family in Gaelic. Such as don't mess with the family/clan. So why would the word the Gaelic word for family be used to describe Iranians chineese Jews etc? It refers to celtic people of british and irish descent such as the welsh scottish and irish. For that reason it has taken on negative meaning(example KKK) as it is supposed to be non inclusive.It is a celtic term not germanic.
- The English word is derived from the Gaelic word but not specific to any country or group of people. It refers to the idea of a clan not any clan or group of clans in particular. --sony-youth 22:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- Clan is from the word Clann, and does not mean family, this is a common misconception, see clann at wiktionary. The meaning is children, or offspring. As such it is not an appropriate term for some of the other countries "clans". However, if good references can be found to link these countries tribes, families, nobility, groups, etc, to the term clan, and specifically describe them as such, who are we to argue? Yours ever, Czar Brodie (talk) 01:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
clans in video games
apart from seeing clans in real life, you commonly see clans in your every day online games. a clan in a video game is much like you would see in real life, they organise themselves and commonly seek dominance against other clans. you can find clans in most online games. clans in online games usually consist of a leader, a co leader, council members and your basic soldier. clans in these video games usually use forums to recruit new members. a clan can have anywhere from 2 to 500 members. the clans most commonly seek battles against each other. the winning clan gets bragging rights and establishes themselves as "dominaters" or "owners"
clans usually get together on set schedules and go out to do events. the average online clan has about 1 to 4 events a week. you can most commonly find clans in runescape, a game by jagex. in runescape clans get really serious. and even start websites and make videos. clans most notably found in runescape are the vice lords and damage inc. both clans have almost 500 members. and most of the top clans have around that much. clans will be found anywhere where organisation in numbers is possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The vice lords (talk • contribs) 09:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Scottish clans category
I have removed the Scottish clans box at the bottom of the page which listed all the Scottish clans. I felt this was unnecessary as it is catered for in the Scottish clans article itself and adds a somewhat Scottish bias to the article. It has been removed, but is still in place in the Scottish clans article where it should be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:03, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I was just looking at this to read more about English clans - of northern England - who were collectively known with Scottish border clans - as the Reivers. I think it is unfair to ignore the Reiver clans as not being actual clans as they effectively acted as one. I understand that it is covered under Reiver page - but I do think the English clans do deserve a mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 17:16, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- wiki is about references, so if you have good reliable references that say / speak of / or refer to English clans and refer to them as "clans" then go ahead. Yours ever, Czar Brodie (talk) 14:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I found the entry for "Khatri clans" (in India) all garbled, and not usable by readers. The sourcecode actually gave a long list of their surnames at this location: wikt:Appendix:Khatri surnames , where wikt stands for wiktionary. Anyway, I can't judge how useful that wiktionary list might be to readers if they could still access it, but I don't like to lose such information, so I am preserving that sourcecode information here. Of course I removed that information from the sourcecode, in order to make the "Khatri clans" entry useful to the readers of Wikipedia. Good luck to us all, For7thGen (talk) 22:38, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I deleted the following paragraph from the "Clans as political units" section. It had nothing to do with "clans as political units", and not much to do with clans in general. It also seems rather dubious to me - it can't possibly be true that such a lifestyle has "continued to be the most common form of life through human history", given that such a lifestyle was generally abandoned in the neolithic, i.e. while we were still prehistoric. (And the language is overblown and not particulalry encyclopaedic, and seems to me to be giving off a bit of a "noble savage" vibe).
- Large families or clans wandering in the lush woodlands have continued to be the most common form of life through human history. Axes to fell trees and sickles for harvesting of the grain were the only tools people might bring with them. All other devices were made from materials they found at the site, such as fire stakes of birch, long rods (vanko), and harrows made of spruce tops. The extended family conquered the lush virgin forest, burned and cultivated their carefully selected swidden plots, powered one or a few crops, and then proceeded on to forests they had registered before. In the temperate zone the forest regenerated in the course of a lifetime. So swidden was repeated several times in the same area over the years. But in the tropics the forest floor gradually depleted. It was not only to the moors, as in Northern Europe, but also in the steppe, savannah, prairie, pampas and barren desert in tropical areas where shifting cultivation is the oldest (Clark 1952 91-107).
- I agree to your edit. The contribution was made by user:svedjebruk a norwegian contributor with a sympathy for a new theory on agricultural history. Bw --Orland (talk) 16:43, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Dear Writer Please write content under Kshatriya clan, it is empty
Pleas write from ancient to present(when Kshatriya word evolved, and who are Kshatriya now) as per social hierarchical and chronological order — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 06:24, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- Clark J.G.D. 1952, Farming: Clearance and Cultivation II Prehistoric Europe: The Economic Basis, Cambridge.