Talk:Clay Regazzoni

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Coloured table[edit]

Why does the table have multi-coloured squares? If these are significant, it needs to be clearly captioned. Guy 18:03, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Click where it says 'key'. It could, perhaps, be clearer though. 4u1e 21:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Emboldenated the word "key". Pyrope 15:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

What did he hit?[edit]

There seems to be some disagreement between sources on what exactly it was that Regga's car crashed into at Long Beach in 1980. Many sources claim that it was a parked car (some even specify a Brabham), while others say its was a barrier. As the "barrier" camp includes Nigel Roebuck I am inclined to belive that version of events, but has anyone got a primary reference on way or the other? Pyrope 19:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

GrandPrix.com seems to support the idea that he did both. With the line in question reading: "At Long Beach he suffered a brake failure at the end of the long straight and went off, crashing into Ricardo Zunino's abandoned Brabham, which launched the car into the air. It flew into a concrete barrier and Regazzoni suffered spinal injuries which resulted in paralysis below the waist".--Skully Collins Edits 15:20, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Ditto from Roebuck's GP Greats: "Zunino's Brabham was parked in the escape road. I hit it, then bounced into the barrier. For about 10 minutes I lost consciousness. Then I remember terrible pain in my hips...". Page 140. 4u1e 19:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
The best information I have on this comes from page 13 of the relevant edition of Grand Prix International magazine, dated 8th of April, 1980. According to witnesses like Emerson Fittipaldi, who was following the Ensign, Regazzoni's brakes failed at around 175mph on Shoreline Drive. He was running in 4th place at the time of the crash.
"Fate, luck or whatever had dictated that the escape road was blocked by the already abandoned cars of Zunino and Depailler. It is possible that those cars saved the life of the Swiss driver from Monte Carlo. Before thumping into the barrier of tyres that lined the concrete wall, the Ensign scraped its left side against the Brabham's right side. It's almost certain that this first impact is what broke Clay's left leg, but also meant that the second impact with the wall was at around 125mph instead of 155mph or more. All the same, when the Ensign hit the concrete, it pushed back the four ton block nearly two yards... The well-built Ensign monocoque is one reason why Regazzoni was saved from the crash. Even so, such an impact against a solid wall bent the monocoque in two from the driver's hips so that his knees touched his helmet. There was practically nothing left of the car in front of the driver's knees."
The only photographs I have seen of the wreck show the tub wedged between the concrete wall on the left and the tyre barrier on the right. The entire left side of the car is missing with just the central section of the tub remaining. Zunino's Brabham had the entire right side missing, which is consistent with GPI's description, albeit it was rather more than a "scrape". I would also suggest that "the two schools of thought" have probably not seen the relevant photographs. What they show is that the left side of Regazzoni's car hit the right side of Zunino's car and then finished up wedged between the tyre barrier and the wall, with the direct frontal impact being absorbed by a concrete block. Flanker235 (talk) 01:23, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Sportscars[edit]

I don't quite get this bit, from Clay's sportscar career:

"At the end of 1973 Ferrari withdrew from sports car racing, and Regazzoni's move to rejoin the team in 1974 effectively ended his sports car career."

Can anyone explain? 4u1e 12:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Sort of - he moved back to the Ferrari F1 team from BRM for 1974 - the suggestion is that Ferrrari didn't have a sportscar team, and wouldn't let him drive for anyone else. -- Ian Dalziel 13:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
The rewording works for me. Sorry for not being explicit when I wrote the original! Pyrope 18:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Sportscar World Championship in 1996[edit]

Despite what the GrandPrix.com article says, presumably it can't have been the World Sportscar Championship that Regga was refused a license for in 1996, because it ended in 1993. In 1996, if Wikipedia's article is to be believed, and it does match my own recollection, the only sportscar championship was the BPRO's GT series. Not run by the FIA at that point either. Is that what Regazzoni hoped to enter? 4u1e 23:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Bibliography[edit]

Note to remind my self as much as anything: Regga's biography shouldn't live in a section called references, because we haven't used it as a reference. I suggest that it could eventually go in a section called 'Other sources', along with any 'External links'. 4u1e 6 March 09:28

The referencing in this article is confused. We either need Harvard References, which would cover everything, and so not need a separate References and Footnotes section, or we remove the in line citations and just have a general references section. The Regga biography was there from a very early edit, and I'm not sure that an early editor didn't use some materials from that book and just use bibliography referencing, rather than Harvard. That's why I slipped it into a nice catch-all Bibliography field. Which implies that it is another source, but not one cited in the text. Pyrope 09:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Mostly my fault - I'm half way through changing it to look something more like Brabham, prompted by comments on the Tom Pryce peer review. 4u1e 6 March 2007, 13:30