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I modified the comment about the distribution for linux, we make an article for each version of windows, stop there is no reason why we would not do that for linux

ClearOS, while not that different from Clarkconnect in design and functionality, it is quite a different directive and focus. Some of these changes in focus and direction can be seen by the additions to the system made by John H. Terpstra and others who were added to the contributors of Clarkconnect beginning with 4.3 and 5.0. Clarkconnect was traditionally a gateway server with some light network services support. ClearOS aims to be an all-in-one office and home solution for gateway, network, and server support. Some of these changes include; centralized LDAP directory, initiatives for LDAP replication between servers, increased CIFS and Samba support. Addition of network services. Structurally, Clarkconnect is owned by PointClark Networks which is a Canada based company, ClearOS is owned by Clear Foundation which is an Incorporated Society based in New Zealand. IMHO, ClearOS should stand apart from the ClarkConnect article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr0f3550r (talkcontribs) 17:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Removed Merge Flag, Clarkconnect now redirect to ClearOS. Removed Notability, ClearOS is used by over 100,000 people worldwide and is currently number 30 on Distrowatch. Removed Refimprove, each statement supported by 3rd party writings. Removed Self-published, data provided is accurately supported and the article has been improved by others than those involved with ClearFoundation. comment added by Pr0f3550r —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.8.86.238 (talk) 22:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Peter, you can't remove the POV or self-published tags since you are a developer for Clear SDN, which clearly presents an irreconcilable conflict of interest that the reader should be aware of. Furthermore the source code for at least suva-client is not yet published so I am re-adding those statements that you removed by accident. MfG, Andreas van dem Helge 99.153.162.173 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:08, 2 October 2010 (UTC).
Andreas, I think you have me confused with someone else. I'm reverting your changes since they place the article back to a point where it is rather shabby. Please improve the article. Rather than un-improving the article. Might I suggest that you put your own supported statements. Your point of view can help as well. To help you in this process I will update the article to include an inclusion of your own stated point of view as per this discussion, I will leave it up to you to cite the references you find on the subject. Also, please add rather than revert any flags you feel are relevant to improve this article. I can see where some of the references use self-published or self-derived support for claims and statements, I will remove those citations and claims for you. My reason for reverting your changes are that they break a lot of things rather than move them forward. Here is a list of things that you've removed for which you did not supply sufficient reason for the removal:
 * Reinstatement of "merge" flag when merged data was present.
 * Removal of merged Clarkconnect content (long-standing NPOV content) as the result of a merge.
 * Reinstatement of claim that source code for GPL parts of ClearOS was missing when by your own account this references a singular component which is not GPL.
 * Removal of properly cited awards list.
 * Removal of citations listed in response to previous Refimprove flag.
 * Reinstatement of the Refimprove flag.
 * Reinstatement of notability flag.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr0f3550r (talkcontribs) 07:20, 3 October 2010 (UTC) 
David, you previously voiced your opinion that these articles shouldn't be merged. Why the sudden, unexplained, change of heart? 99.153.162.173 (talk)
Andreas, I would suggest that you stop editing this and other related pages as it can[[1]] clearly[[2]] be[[3]] demonstrated[[4]] that you are, by the same token and measure that you apply towards me, biased and cannot formulate a neutral point of view based on your negativity and public campaigning against ClearOS. Additionally, you state opinions as facts and have never once posted any external proofs for your biased claims. You state contested issues as fact in the negative towards ClearOS, again without any reference for your claims. Additionally, you are not a subject matter expert as evidenced by your lack of technical knowledge provided in the links above. I ask people other than myself to fix these issues because if I do it, you'll just accuse me of being biased and continue your negative campaign against ClearFoundation and its open source and its community. In this article I ask that both your changes and mine be analyzed for accuracy and correctness. Namely, you recently changed the software license assigned to Clarkconnect to 'closed'. This is an inaccurate claim without any reference and would seem to indicated that Point Clark Networks was in violation of GPL by closing source on integrated items to which they had no right to do. This is slanderous but I believe more of a result of ineptitude and ignorance than guile on your part. Additionally, you removed the moniker of 'Free Software' by claiming that it cannot be free because it is closed. The Wikipedia article on Free_software encourages users to 'not confuse' free to Open-Source_Software. Debian for instance uses both free and open source software just as ClearOS but it engenders the moniker of 'Free and Open Source Software'. Instead you would, with the quick, biased, and callous clacks on your vicious keyboard, remove the name free and instead replace it with the wholly inaccurate term 'closed'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr0f3550r (talkcontribs) 04:31, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism? Come on; at least my username is displayed by my reason for edits. Do you even use ClearOS or have you even used Clark Connect before that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinkster07 (talkcontribs) 02:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Why does the article state that it's only for free?[edit]

ClearOS comes in 2 versions - a free and a paid one (with a 30-day evaluation) (see http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/downloads.html). This should be also mentioned. Both versions are open source but the PRO version is paid. Something like Red Hat's Linux - you buy it and you get its source code. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rbaleksandar (talkcontribs) 16:49, 2 July 2012 (UTC)