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[edit] Size

The image is like watching a Cinemascope movie on TV, while lying sideways on the sofa. I'm just not crazy about the formatting in this particular case. "Not that there's anything wrong with that." Wetman 21:51, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Currently there are only pictures of the London needle. Shouldn't the other ones be depicted as well?

[edit] First airplane raid on London?

Gotha bombers were already attacking London in June, so the raid of September 4 cannot have been the "first air raid on London by German aeroplanes". Bastie 19:53, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

  • I've corrected the statement Ephebi 13:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orientation of the Sphinxes in London

Apparently, from tour commentary on the Westminster to Greenwich ferry, it's said that the Sphinxes were mounted the wrong way around (facing in, rather than out), and when this was discovered on the day of innaugration, it was highly embarrasing in front of egyptian officials, and the person responsible for the mistake committed suicide out of shame. I can't find any documentary evidence for this. I find partial evidence from a Doctor Who episode (http://www.whoniverse.org/history/19thcentury.php), but it's difficult to know how factual that is. --mgream 10:46, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Time capsual

I understand that a time capsual was included as part of the foundations for the London one. Can this be looked into? - Aaron Jethro 04:22, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

There're no refences or acknowledgements at all on this page! What book/website did the translations come from?

Also, why are all the 'edit' links separated from their individual paragraphs/sections and arranged in a single line further down the page?

[edit] erosion of the NY needle

The text would seem to suggest that the erosion on one face of the needle has happened since it was moved to New York, and the gaps in the translation presumably relate to that eroded face. Is one or both of these incorrect, or did no-one think to copy the eroding hyroglyphics before they were completely gone? FiggyBee 10:40, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleopatra connection

The article says there's no connection to Cleopatra, but a few lines further down, it says the obelisks were moved as a tribute for Mark Antony on behalf of Cleopatra. Isn't that a connection? LightSpeed 17:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Roman discovery of Central Park

The section of the article about the obelisk in Central Park says:

At its base are four 900-pound, 19th-century bronze replicas of crabs, which were first placed there by the Romans and are on display in the Met.

This seems to want clarification. I was unaware that the Romans were ever in Central Park, although they did get around. - Smerdis of Tlön 19:12, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Indeed: there is a memoir by a Navy guy named Seaton Schroeder, who wrote about moving the obelisk w/ Gorringe from Alexandria to NYC. According to him, they originally left it @Coney Island; & that base was moved separately, which is why it wound up in the Met: it was never reattached. But the Romans were in neither Central Park nor Coney Island. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.162.128.52 (talk) 13:05, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Two or three Needles

212.95.118.52 (talk) 01:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The above mentioning of only the two is refered to as Cleopatra's needles is correct. The entire page should be restructured, since it is misleading due to simplicity

All of the mentioned obelisks plus the remains of a another in Istanbul is remains of a total number of six erected by [[[Thutmose III]], two in Deir-Al-Bari, two in Karnak and two in the Ra temple in Heliopolis, which were moved to Alexandria. These two stands in New York and London today.

Two has vanished, one is erected at the Lateran in Rome and the last is in (as before mentioned) in Istanbul Istanbul#Ancient_Greek_and_Roman_monuments —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.160.207.18 (talk) 11:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

  • The French needle is also known (in French obviously) as Cleopatras Needle, and indeed was probably the first to use the nickname. Obviously in reality none have anything to do with Cleopatra at all. The only qualification to be a Cleopatras Needle is to be called that as a nickname. This was all explained in a previous version, which I will restore. Johnbod (talk) 18:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The London 's needle is also mentionned in "the golem's eye" second opus of the trilogy of Bartimeus (Jonathan Stroud) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.213.216.62 (talk) 14:00, 10 November 2010 (UTC)


[edit] possible pic

Depiction of the iron cylinder in danger of sinking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/the-cleopatra-cylinder-vessel-31120

Artist died 1880.

©Geni 22:30, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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