Talk:Cloak

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Removed the Naruto line, as the specific example just didn't fit the listing of general usages listed. And a listing of every character in every book that uses a cloak is not something to be useful for a fashion page (and certainly wasn't for me when I browsed here hoping for the distinction between cloak and cape). It's not even a good (or clear) example of "cloak and dagger"--it seemed only to have that phrase and not its meaning--as opposed to the Harry Potter example which is clear, useful, and short. --Squeeself 10:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Interesting question. In contemporary usage, I would say a cape has shaped shoulders and a cloak doesn't, but that distinction is not true historically (some 16th and 17th century capes have sleeves and are almost indistinguishable from jackets). - PKM
In my mind, a cape is generally a shorter, narrower cloak, not intended to be able to wrap entirely around a person. I also have never heard of a cape with a hood (unlike cloaks, which frequently (or always) have them). According to the OED (for Cloak):
1. A loose outer garment worn by both sexes over their other clothes.
2. a. An academical or clerical gown; particularly the Geneva gown. Obs. or arch.
According to the OED (for Cape):
¹A cloak with a hood; a cloak or mantle generally; an ecclesiastical cope. (obsolete)
²1. A Spanish cloak (with a hood). Obs.
2. The tippet of a cloak or similar garment, being an additional outer piece attached to it at the neck and hanging loose over the shoulders (e.g. in old riding-cloaks, infants' pelisses, etc.).
3. a. A separate article of attire, being a kind of short loose sleeveless cloak, fitting round the neck and falling over the shoulders as a protection against rain or cold. Waterproof capes of this kind are in common use.
If you eliminate the obsolete definitions, you can get a sense that a cape is a lesser version of a cloak. The Jade Knight 00:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

High importance?[edit]

I am not sure how this article got rated as such. If anyone is reading this, then we are in the remotest corner of the oddest subculture in the universe. If we were virtual, we could hide here for a million years. This article is an oubliette. Strangely cool.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Male usage of cloaks[edit]

The page though its illustrations gives the impression that cloaks are either primally or soley women's clothing. That is absurd. First Consider the phrase cloak and dagger. Who is wearing the cloak then? Almost invariably a man. (Although unbuttoned overcoats have been known to serve as a substitute.

Not to mention that superhero capes are full length or longer, generally non-wrap-around cloaks. The page could use an image or two of mens' cloaks. 129.74.229.113 (talk) 01:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Hercules[edit]

The Hercules part under fantasy needs to be removed. Myths are not "fantasy". Gune (talk) 23:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)