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NPOV and citations[edit]

The article clearly lacks sufficient citations for all the claims it makes. Further, I believe it is relevant to include all quotations which are used as sources for content either directly in the text itself or, probably better, particular in works by specific individuals, to include the quote for such content in the footnote, together with the page number(s) of the quote. Also, the article makes references to "Tabor and others" saying that Mary, mother of Jesus, married Clopas. It would be required that there also be some sort of reference to these "others" as well. John Carter 16:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

John, I reverted to the previous version of Rjwilmsi, which is somewhat less POV, but kept the Tabor reference. I'm removing the POV tag for now, unless someone intends to improve on the content soon. The point of the article is not to sort out all these marital relationships anyway. Ovadyah (talk) 20:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


The names all refer to the same person in Aramaic/Hebrew/Greek, respectively. I know I've run across secondary sources that explain this. We need to find one and not pussy-foot around about the names. The more interesting question to me is if this is a title, eg. Alphaeus sounds like it could be a title, like Numero Uno. Ovadyah (talk) 20:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Not to be confused with Cleopas[edit]

The hatnote "Not to be confused with Cleopas" is directly challenged by the final paragraph of the lead, which states "He is often identified with another figure of a similar name, Cleopas (Κλεοπᾶς), one of the two disciples of Emmaus". My first thought was that the hatnote should be replaced with a "See also" but since Cleopas is mentioned and linked in the lead, perhaps the hatnote should just be removed altogether. Does Wiki have a "Not necessarily to be confused with..." hatnote? Timberframe (talk) 14:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)