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Contents 1 Merge proposal 2 Globalise tag 3 Dangers to miners 4 Archiving 5 Production figures 6 United States 7 Impoundment 8 historical coal mining technology 9 16 Ton 10 Methods of Extraction, fix?

[edit] Merge proposal

[edit] Globalise tag

This article now seems reasonably balanced, to me, of a worldwide view. Is anyone unhappy if I remove the tag? Sansumaria (talk) 11:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dangers to miners

May I point out that comparing numbers of fatalities between countries during a year (or any period) does not imply anything about differences in safety conditions because the countries don't necessarily produce the same amount of coal or have the same number of people working in the coal mining industry. To draw inferences about safety conditions, a different statistic (such as fatalities per million tons of coal production or fatalities per million coal mining workers) would be needed. 196.41.124.8 (talk) 20:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

That is a good point, do you know where there are any of those available. They would be quite helpful.--Kelapstick (talk) 20:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Agree - someone do it! Sansumaria (talk) 23:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

Hi, is there a concern that this page is too long? I'm happy to help archive it. --Elonka 00:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Old, old old. So yesterday... Mervyn Emrys (talk) 01:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Done.  :) --Elonka 02:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Production figures

Updated figures with new reference. Old reference, World Coal Institute understated production in some countries such as U.S., where WCI figures were 200 million tons less than official U.S. production figures. This is a significant difference. Other WCI data needs verification with other sources, but haven't gotten there yet. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 12:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] United States

Removed data on production by state because it is dated and duplicated exactly in article Coal in the United States. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 12:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Impoundment

Removed section because it was a one-line promo for a nonprofit org in West Virginia, not appropriate for a global article, and not a significant issue in coal mining. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 13:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] historical coal mining technology

Can anyone suggest an appropriate location or article structure for historical coal mining technology? I'm thinking of tipple, breakers, etc.

There is this: Tipple, which in my view is not at all satisfactory.

And there was this: [1], which has since been removed. Perhaps a Historical coal mining technology article could be created, but this information might be more appropriate in a subsection of another article. Just looking for suggestions here... Richard Myers (talk) 21:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The definition in breakers didn't belong because Wikipedia is not a dictionary, having said I would suggest that you create articles such as Coal tipple and Breakers (coal mining), keeping in mind citing sources (if available, I know finding sources for mining articles is difficult), as even if you add the content to an existing article without sources it is likely to be deleted. Personally I know nothing about either subject (or coal mining in general).--kelapstick (talk) 22:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 16 Ton

My grandfather used a term and I would like it included in the coal minning article under history. The term was not understood by anyone at his death but I happened to be flying with an old coal minner from Kentucky and he told me its meaning. I can't find a citation anywhere in literature or on the web but believe it to be worthy of your system.

In the early days of minning miners in shafts were expected to cut 16 ton of coal a day. The miners worked in teams of 5. When the miners were working very hard they could cut 100 ton of coal. When an old miner is asked "How are you doing" a response of "Cutting a hundred" meaning they were doing great.

Please find a way of including this information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.156.54.26 (talk) 19:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, unless that information can be referenced, it would fail the policies on reliable sources and verifiability. If you can provide a published source the information can possibly be included. The Seeker 4 Talk 19:42, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that would be a good idea, as stated by Theseeker4 though, would would need to have a "reliable source". :) Good idea!

Sniper120 (talk) 21:29, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Methods of Extraction, fix?

Noticed "Coals occurring below 300 feet (91 m) are usually deep mined.", I think it should be "Coal occurring below 300 feet (91 m) is usually deep mined.". I think it would sound better. Sniper120 (talk) 21:33, 21 October 2009 (UTC)