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This article focuses almost solely on the US - it has a section for each state, and not one on a single other country or regions other than the broad category of "around the world". Needs a major overhaul. 130.15.43.101 (talk) 06:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Think we should move the list to another article, and add a short paragraph about the united states, since most users believe it requires special treatment... --CrtL (talk) 18:43, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

In the rest of the world, they're called "university towns." "College town" is a specifically American term, since only in America are universities called "colleges." john k (talk) 05:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps moving this to "University town" would be appropriate (I seem to remember it being called that at one point) and making a "List of college towns in the United States" or something of that nature. We could easily have the mention of the US-term "college town" in the lead here. --JonRidinger (talk) 20:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

College town is the proper term, not university town. Europeans seem to be missing the point of what a college town is. It just isn't a town that has a university and a lot of students in it. It is a town/city that is practically run by the college. A town that is so interconnected with the college that it is hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. Leeds? Manchester? Seriously? There is a complete disconnect with the definitions that americans have traditionally used and europeans are using. --DavisJune (talk) 00:31, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Great liberties taken in defining a "college town[edit]

I guess the key phrase in this article is "have been called college towns", which I think borders on weasel wording.

Many of the cities listed in this article probably should not be labeled as college towns as they are extensive metropolitan areas where the colleges or universities present are not really a dominant presence compared to other factors of the city. Reno, NV, Tucson, AZ, Austin, TX, Pittsburgh, PA, Knoxville & Nashville, TN, particularly do not fit the mold, but several others on the list too. Apparently merely having a college campus located in the city, or nearby has qualified it as a "college town". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gillwill (talkcontribs) 03:26, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps we should say that we only include a town if there are at least two sources that say they "have been called a college town". We follow the sources. --Bduke (Discussion) 03:53, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Can we possibly come to a consensus on the definition of "college town" or "university town" and then apply accordingly. Many of the places on that list hardly qualify, don't have sources (or have an extremely unreliable one) and flat-out should not be there. That list needs an extremely heavy prune. Xtremerandomness (talk) 07:37, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Great US-bias[edit]

1) The title of this article is biased. In the huge majority of countries around the world, institutes of higher learning are primarily called Universities, not colleges- which are normally synonymous with further learning institutions. The article should be renamed 'University Town' to reflect a worldwide view.

2) The phenomenon is not just a US one, just because one study says. Quite clearly there are university towns around the world; in Europe I can think of Salamanca in Spain, Leeds in the UK and Uppsala in Sweden, and those are just the first that came into my head.

3) There is no need for an extensive list of US university towns- this only adds to the bias. It should be a separate article if deemed necessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.9.46.158 (talk) 12:38, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree. The article makes the claim that it is largely a US phenomenon, with barely a mention of the fact that there are many throughout the world, and not just in America. In addition, a large amount of those "college towns" in the list hardly count as such. Duke University in Durham is archetypal of the statement "most institutions of higher education grew together with major cities", which is written in the "College towns worldwide" section making the point that these cities are not "college towns". The US list needs to be heavily pruned, as currently it seems to include every university that is not strictly a campus outside of the main town, and the worldwide list definitely needs to be expanded. Xtremerandomness (talk) 13:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I still have yet to see any proof that college towns are NOT just a US phenomenon. Non-americans need to be aware that just because a college exist in a town, and that town and college have good a good relationship with one another, this does not make a college town. --DavisJune (talk) 02:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Hyde Park[edit]

Hyde Park is a neighborhood within the city of Chicago, not a town. It shouldn't be included in the article. If you change the name to "College communities" then you might have a case, Mr. Person Who Put that in the Article, but otherwise no. 68.59.32.38 (talk) 06:40, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Moving the list of college towns to another page?[edit]

I'm not opposed to the full move, but I think there should at least be a small list of college towns on the main page. As it stands now, there aren't any U.S college towns listed (strange because college town are predominately american) and this presents a lopsided view of college towns and what they actually are. I also think that the move of the list of college towns to a new page should not have been done without approval. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavisJune (talkcontribs) 00:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)