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I read the article of the Colosseum this morning and chanced upon the gallery under the Today section of the article. The picture gallery contains repeated "Colosseum 2013" captions which I find confusing. Could someone help me out here? I want to arrange them in a gallery but there should be only one caption for all the images. Regards, Japanese Rail Fan (talk) 13:52, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
A separate section on Christians is not really necessary as the main body of the text already states "In 1749, Pope Benedict XIV endorsed the view that the Colosseum was a sacred site where early Christians had been martyred. He forbade the use of the Colosseum as a quarry and consecrated the building to the Passion of Christ and installed Stations of the Cross, declaring it sanctified by the blood of the Christian martyrs who perished there (see Christians and the Colosseum). However there is no historical evidence to support Benedict's claim, nor is there even any evidence that anyone prior to the 16th century suggested this might be the case; the Catholic Encyclopedia concludes that there are no historical grounds for the supposition." An editor at some point added a section based on the Catholic Encyclopedia entry which was tagged for years as needed refs, so I added them, but now the section has been re-written with the addition of various legends stated as fact. There is no evidence that St Ignatius was torn to pieces by lions at the Coliseum, that is just a legend. I am putting it back to the version which is neutral in my opinion, although I will amend it to say that there is no evidence for or against Christians being executed there. I don't like that painting of lions about to pounce on Christians in the Colosseum either as I feel it perpetuates myths and I changed that also but don't feel strongly enough about that to fight about it.Smeat75 (talk) 03:26, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
User:Smeat75, hello! Thank you for taking the time to look at the section. I would like to discuss your recent edits. If you noticed, every reliable source that I added in the article has the original quote by the author, for you to see if the sentence is verifiable. Now, the former paragraphs never said that Ignatius was definitively martyred in the Colosseum; rather, they say that he likely was martyred there, giving Christians further inspiration to believe in the idea that many Christians were persecuted there. I agree that most Christians were not persecuted in the Colosseum, but as the sources point out, some were executed as common criminals. Your edits restore information that The Catholic Encyclopedia never state in the first place. I suppose that I should find the original quotes from that source to show you that the new revision is more accurate. Indeed, I spent quite some time going back to the source and revising that information. I will not object to your removal of that painting, as long as File:Ignatius of Antioch.jpg is used in its stead. I hope this helps and look forward to your comments. With regards, AnupamTalk 04:02, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
I just added the original quotes from Keith Hopkins, as well as The Catholic Encyclopedia, to the references added by the editor who wrote the information. If you feel that any of the sentences do not accurately reflect what is said in the sources (I have provided the original quotes for you to read), then you can suggest a revision of the sentence in question here. Thanks! Best, AnupamTalk 04:24, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello, I am not a registered Wikipedia editor, but i am the author of a source cited in the Christians and the Colosseum section. My book is quoted and cited concerning the cross that is erected at the Colosseum and the plaque. I was incorrect about the placement of the plaque; it is on the exterior of the building, not on the cross as the book seems to indicate. I will update this in the book's second edition, and provide a better translation of the plaque's wording. In the meantime, accuracy on Wikipedia would require removing this reference to the plaque. Thank you. Bryan Litfin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 14:32, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Re: comments of Anupam above: the paraphrase from professor of ancient history at Cambridge University Keith Hopkins's book on the Coliseum needs to stay, it is an impeccable source, and says there is no evidence for (or against) execution of Christians at the Coliseum. The quote you added says "there seems little doubt that "some Christians" were executed there but you left out the "seems" and "doubt" so I have clarified that, to "it may be" that "some Christians" were executed there. The story about Ignatius being torn to lions, as the quote you added says ("ancient Christian records do not record" martyrdoms at the Coliseum), is not backed by any record whether Christian or pagan, therefore it is a legend without any evidence except that it became an oft-repeated tale.Smeat75 (talk) 17:41, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
I amended the Ignatius reference from "legend" to 'according to Iraneus" but he doesn't say anything about Ignatius being torn to lions at the Coliseum, only in Rome. There is a reference in there which talks about Trajan and Marcus Aurelius sending Christians to their deaths which is just not true but I will not remove it for the moment anyway.Smeat75 (talk) 19:01, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Smeat75, I have taken a look at your changes and find them to be acceptable. I will make no changes to the version as you have it written now. All the best, AnupamTalk 02:50, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:40, 5 September 2014 (UTC)