Talk:Colours, standards and guidons

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I believe that the Sovereign's Mace of the Royal Hospital deserves to be included as part of this article, as it serves the same purpose as a regimental colour. (User:Hammersfan; 29/10/04 00:03)

Some information, like ettiquette, is only valid for one country. In this case Britian. It should be sited as such or possibly reorganized by country. 24.117.102.234 22:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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Colour vs. Color[edit]

The combined and apparently random choices of the british and english spellings of "color" / "colour" become very distracting and annoying while perusing this article. I propose a choice be made, one way or another, and all instances of the word on this page be changed, as well as the page title. Perhaps use "color", since colour redirects to color? 69.178.54.227 (talk) 11:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

As the British/international English version is used in the title that would be the best choice to save moving the article to the American spelling, doing so now. --Nate1481(t/c) 11:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

In the UK and Commonwealth armed services it is Colour; in the US it is Color. It would be acceptable and correct to have both spellings in the article. So, for example, USMC references would be to Colors and RM Cdo references would be to Colours. --MJB (talk) 22:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I have to disagree with Nate1481. The United States military does not call anything "colour". In the case of this article, "National Color" and similar terms are proper nouns and should be spelled as they are by the organization that uses the term.--JagSeal (talk) 03:20, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Which is all very well and good when there is an organizational context for the use of the word. Not every instance of the word color/colour in this article is definitely so situated, and so a general choice must be made for the overall article. I also think that switching back and forth throughout the article is a terrible idea. KDS4444Talk 19:46, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Needs a cleanup[edit]

The article could do with a lot of cleanup. I am sure someone has access to military history texts which will go into this topic dispassionately, unlike the current state of the article. Ideally it emphasises the modern/21st century aspects of military symbology—such emphasis is not contradictory with their historical origins. French revolutionary and Soviet military colours lack a lot of the regal or religious meanings their relatives in the rest of Europe have yet are undisputably "colours" in the sense a lot of people here are thinking about. 118.90.35.155 (talk) 11:23, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Structure[edit]

Does the structure of this article follow any logic ? What is the relevance of a division between European monarchies and republics. Certain countries knew the two regimes. I'm going to clean it up. DITWIN GRIM (talk) 07:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

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National Colors = Queen's Colours?[edit]

The article makes mention that the National Colors of a US Army regiment is the equivalent of the Queen's Colours of a British Army regiment. I think this might be incorrect, because the National Colors of a US Army unit is simply the National Flag with a gold fringe and two tassels, and it is essentially the same regardless of unit and branch, from battalion all the way to big Army. In contrast, the Queen's Colours in British Army units seem to be much more personalized items, displaying the honours and badge of individual units. An equivalent flag for the British to carry would be a plain Union Jack. Civil War era US Army regiments did personalize their National Colors at times, with some units displaying battle and campaign names on their National Colors, but this practice was done away with shortly after the war if memory serves.

This may be splitting hairs, but it could be misleading for the reader. Kintrix (talk) 13:56, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

renaming[edit]

Wouldn't (Modern) MILITARY colours, standards and guidons be more apt? Junior Woodchuck (talk) 16:27, 21 May 2014 (UTC)