Talk:Commander (song)

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Current status: Good article

Release date issue..[edit]

The song is being released in may..it says it was released in march.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy775433 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done this has now been resolved.Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:37, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

this song has charted[edit]

Resolved requests (✗ Not done or  Done)
"It’s the #1 breakout song on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Play Charts"

according to her website : http://kelly-rowland.net/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Indieiseasy (talk • contribs) 14:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done by User:Candyo32

Commander is #4 on Itunes dance chart! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.216.22.188 (talk) 21:39, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

✗ Not done per WP:record charts we don't include iTunes charts. Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:47, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway commander is # 4 on itunes and #18on billboard dance chart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.216.22.188 (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It has risen to 15 in the Irish singles chart. It says this is charts but it hasnt been updated in release and chart performance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.185.81 (talk) 20:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it is currently at number 27 of Danish official single chart and it has risen to number 13 in Ireland chart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markolicious (talk • contribs) 17:47, 23 July 2010 (UTC)  Done, thanks for the info. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 02:08, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It has charted in Bulgarian singles chart and peaked at #12 ref: http://acharts.us/bulgaria_singles_top_40 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markolicious (talk • contribs) 14:03, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a valid chart: see WP:BADCHARTS.—Kww(talk) 14:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Up to #23 in Denmark —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markolicious (talk • contribs) 00:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

✗ Not done, it'll be several hours before the official site we use danishcharts.com is updated. I'll check the source in few hours/tomo and update accordingly. NB: You are not allowed to removed comments from a talk page even if they are yours. If you want to retract something you said type <s> at the start and </s> at the end instead. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:51, 30 July 2010

Up to 26 in Sweden ref:http://www.sverigetopplistan.se/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markolicious (talk • contribs) 14:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

commander is #1 on MTV Dance Chart (http://www.mtv.co.uk/channels/mtv-dance/chart)

✗ Not done, MTV charts do not belong on wikipedia per WP:record charts. Also your request does not come in the correct form. It should say "can you please change x to y (source)" etc. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:23, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  1. 20 on Finland singles chart —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markolicious (talk • contribs) 16:54, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
✗ Not done, not according to the official sources. According to Mitta Hitta it has yet to debut. ---- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 (talk2me) 22:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.finnishcharts.com/weekchart.asp?cat=s it has debuted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markolicious (talk • contribs) 00:25, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Up to #46 in Switzerland http://hitparade.ch/weekchart.asp?cat=s —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.85.226.61 (talk) 12:42, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  1. 55 on Canadian Hot 100 (Billboard) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.10.86.102 (talk) 11:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It peaked in Russian Airplay chart at #32 ref:http://www.tophitru.com/airplay_week.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.10.86.102 (talk) 17:11, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  1. 4 in South Africa ref: http://www.5fm.co.za/charts/the-5fm-top-40 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.26.81.201 (talk) 16:45, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it's #11 in France airplay chart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.26.81.201 (talk) 18:11, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

source? - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 18:21, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.charly1300.com/topfrance.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.26.81.201 (talk) 18:47, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It peaked at #25 in Billboard euro top 100 Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).:http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/european-hot-100?begin=21&order=position Markolicious (talk) 21:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

this the official french airplay chart. It's #12 [1] 87.18.90.252 (talk) 15:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC) http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-259838-Radio.html 87.18.90.252 (talk) 15:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Done i will add this now thank you. for the future note that Disqueenfrance.com is the official source. But charly1300.com has a history of discrepancies with official sources and even though in this instance it appears to be correct it could not be used. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 (talk2me) 18:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


it debuted in the Dutch top40 ref:http://www.radio538.nl/web/show/id=875994 Markolicious (talk) 21:30, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, thank you. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 21:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-259838-Radio.html

controversy[edit]

This section is completely pointless. There's really no valid controversy, there just small insignificant rumors that really aren't all that relevant. I'm going to delete this section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.199.110 (talk) 19:29, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree, the controversy has recieved media attention. beyoncé fans hate seing anyone say anything negative about her. it is an interpretation and point of view reported by the media which has some elements of truth. It is non-bias and well sourced therefore it deserves a mention and to stay because it is the context of the song. It affects its release and possibly its charting positions. Wikipedia deals with fact not with bias towards one artist or another. Therefore i've reinstated the section. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 13:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Singles cronology[edit]

Shake Them Haters Off is a Rowland's singles, and not of Guetta! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.216.22.188 (talk) 16:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

apologies. it has been corrected. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 13:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Music video premiere date[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} In the music video section, add that the unfinished version surfaced online on June 1, 2010.Source 1.

 Not done Although that source shows that the video premiered on June 1 it doesnt say it was the unfinished version. Thats WP:original research. (also your request comes in the wrong form. you need to say "change from x to y"). regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

edit semi protected[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} In the music video section, add that the unfinished/leaked version surfaced online on June 1, 2010.Source

 Not done the source provided in a non-notable self published blog which breaches reliable sources. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

edit[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}}

In the music video section, add that the video premiered on June 1, 2010.Source - Rap-Up.

 Done and added semi-credible source for false version leaking. the propper version is set to appear june 9 then we'll have a proper or better source. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Commander (song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Adabow(complain) 08:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
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  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    There are some minor changes that need to be made. I will place the review on hold for seven days, awaiting further improvements. Adabow(complain) 10:48, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Is it well written?[edit]

  • Lead: link Kelly Rowland (album) to 'third studio album', otherwise someone might think self-titled links to a page about self-titling things
 Done
  • ...top ten in the UK and top twenty Ireland... in Ireland, maybe?
 Done
  • 'Music and lyrics' section: similar to his productions "Sexy Bitch" and "Boom Boom Pow". Though near the end... Starting a sentence with 'though' seems gramatically incorrect (and if not, sounds awkard). Maybe start with "However, near the end..."?
 Done
  • 'Themes' section: new section; mention Rowland's name again, rather than 'she'
    • Quote from Rap Up: "...[Kelly's] stretching her legs out and she's..". Either use "she's" (direct from quote), or "Rowland is", rather than "Kelly's"
 Done
  • 'Release' section: ..in New York that she choose this song..." maybe chose (past tense)?
 Done
  • 'Chart performance' section: '..."Commander" made it U.S. chart debut...' → made its
    • "On May 28, 2010 and After six weeks on the UK charts it peaked at number two on the dance chart[54] and nine on the official singles chart[55] a week ahead of the release of its remix EP" this is slightly confusing and probably should be reworded.
 Done
  • 'Concept and reception' section: wikify Rap Up
 Done
    • "Since official release the video has received critical acclaim with over two million Vevo views." this needs an 'as of' or similar
 Done

References[edit]

  • For charts you need to find permanent references - for some charts (at least New Zealand and Australia) you need to use the Hung Medien source (ie [1] and [2]
✗ Not done, The single only reached 64 in Australia and unfortunatly Australian-charts.com only archives positions 1-50. The ONLY source which archives positions above 50 is panadora.nla.gov. Rather than use Pandora (which takes several weeks to update) I've archived the ChartiFacts page instead. As soon as pandora updates and uploads the new pdf's then I will change to pandora. Also for New Zealand I've used {{singlechart}} and per WP:record charts once single chart is used it should not be replaced, also for consistancy. If you wish I'll add [3] as an additional source? --Lil-unique1 (talk) 15:37, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Australian charts only got down to #50, see official site Adabow(complain) 23:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's not true. ARIA Charts publishes only the top 50 to the viewing public. The rest must be obtained by subscription. But as shown here Ariacharts.com/faqs the chart goes up to 100. This is the chartifacts page here which in effect is a publishment of the top chart achievements that week. its been manually archived using WebCite. The only other place this is available is at the National Archives of Australia who do actually digitally archive the ARIA CHARTS report for which I can link to for the week in question. This is the ARIA Chart report here. If you prefer I could add this as a link. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:11, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Done

OK then, I will pass the article now. Adabow(complain) 00:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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