Talk:Committee of Union and Progress

Establishment

I'm doing a research paper right now and read on this page that the CUP was etablished in 1889 (while the Arabic page says 1894, they should all at least be consistent) without any citations but I have some resources that talk about its activity before 1876, so once i'm done with my class in three weeks, i'mma come back and correct the dates. cullen (talk) 20:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

"Jihadist"?

Wasn't it rather extreme nationalism? --HanzoHattori 08:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

And apparently can be best explained as "clerical fascism". What? The? Heck? --192.75.48.150 (talk) 21:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Effects on Republic of Turkey: POV and conjecture.

The statements in the final paragraph of this section argue how history may have been, although possibly true they are unsupported here. Gbaddorf 20:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that it is actually a minimum-rewrite counterfactual argument. There is little there that cannot have been foreseen. The entry of the Ottoman Empire into the war was a pure, total, and unmitigated disaster for the Ottoman Empire, its minorities, and its majority groups, regardless of how and to what extent should blame for the subsequent events -- including the Pontic, Armenian and Assyrian Genocides -- be apportioned.--193.194.63.129 21:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)--Jackkalpakian 21:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed

These assumptions like

the CUP especially disliked Armenians

and

the CUP is said to have been involved in the massacres and killings of Armenians,

can not be used to verify an accusation

who were killed in the hundreds of thousands during 1915.

which can't be also verified and under heavy dispution. Original text:

While in theory any Christian other than a citizen of Germany or its allies could legally be killed in what the government defined as a jihad, the CUP especially disliked Armenians, and began plotting their extermination almost immediately. Indeed, the first major offensive the Turks undertook in World War I was an unsuccessful attempt to drive the Russians from the portion of classic Armenia which they had taken over in the Russo-Turkish War of 1877, with an eye to the slaughter of the general population. After the predictable failure of this expedition, the CUP is said to have been involved in the massacres and killings of Armenians, who were killed in the hundreds of thousands during 1915.

--Mavromatis (talk) 13:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I updated the article and removed the NPOV tag, please use {{POV-section}} or {{POV-statement}} for sentences, then detail issues here. - RoyBoy 23:48, 17 December 2011 (UTC)