Talk:Commodore (rank)

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Don't delete this page yet. I've emailed the copyright holder asking for permission. [1] --mav 19:59, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)


The image of the RN Cdre rank lace is wrong. The "curl" is not partly concealed behind the broad lace, but should be a complete ring of narrow lace that sits above the broad lace.

If you can find a better picture, more power to you. The one on this page came from the U.S. Navy Homepage under "Allied Navies". -Husnock 24Nov04

Also, the table should be altered as Maj-Gen is the highest rank in the Royal Marines. Andrew Yong 00:23, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Then alter the table! Tis is Wikipedia where anyone can alter anything! -Husnock 24Nov04
The professional head of the Royal Marines (the Commandant General Royal Marines) may be a major general, but an RM officer can always be promoted to a higher-ranking appointment in the Ministry of Defence. The 2004 Navy List gives the highest-ranking Royal Marine officers as Lt Gen R.H.G. Fulton and Lt Gen R.A. Fry, who hold senior positions on the Defence Staff. (Anyone know if a Royal Marine can hold a 4-star appointment - Vice-Chief of the Defence Staff, Chief of Defence Logistics?) Franey 11:01, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

RM generals are administered the same way as Army generals after the rank of Colonel, therefore they are eligible for more senior positions but this tends not to happen.


Note 2 doesn't appear to refer to anything material to this article.

I am a little confused as to why this article has a heading Commodore 64? Why the 64?Ningbojoe 02:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

"Emperor's New Clothes" link[edit]

Rm the external link; it was an extremely POV/OR essay on how great the UK ranking system was, and how other countries' ranking systems as deviations from it were "wrong, stupid, pointless, and confusing". It adds nothing to the article. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 20:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Navy shoulder board Cmdre.png[edit]

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How did it cause confusion?[edit]

The article claims that the brief restoration of the rank of Commodore in the US Navy caused confusion with the title of Commodore used for Captains who command a group of ships. How would it be any more "confusing" than the fact that Captain is both a rank, and a title given to the commanding officer of a ship regardless of rank? 75.76.213.106 (talk) 22:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Probably one confusion is enough, but not two confusions. Yes, Captain is both a rank and what you call a ship's commander or skipper. Commodore is both a rank higher than Captain, as well as a person of Captain rank who commands a group of ships. No big deal for most, and probably easily sorted out in the proper context, but when it gets into official communications it can cause confusion.
When I was working for the Navy in the 1990s, "Commodore" was still in use but being phased out. Personally, I think "Commodore" is a cooler title than "Rear Admiral, Lower Half". ~Amatulić (talk) 07:06, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Equivalents[edit]

I can't make out what is meant by "Non-English-speaking nations often use the rank of flotilla admiral or counter admiral or senior captain as an equivalent, although the latter may also correspond to rear admiral.". If they are non-English speaking, they are most unlikely to use English terms for their ranks, as this description would require. Does it mean "Non-English-speaking nations often do not use a separate term for a rank equivalent to that of commodore, but one adapted from the next senior or junior rank, which might be translated as for example "flotilla admiral", "counter admiral" or "senior captain". Diomedea Exulans (talk) 17:23, 8 March 2014 (UTC)