Talk:Commonwealth Caribbean

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Puerto Rico & Florida as part of the Anglophone Caribbean?[edit]

Puerto Rico is a colony of the U.S.A., and although one of its two official languages is English (the other one is Spanish), I can talk from being a resident of this island my whole life that almost everyone here speaks Spanish. We do know English a little bit, but we barely speak it in our daily lives. I suggest the removal of Puerto Rico from this list, as we don't even have historic roots tying us to any anglophone-speaking country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hfzorman (talkcontribs) 04:38, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

This article is about the Commonwealth, and PR is not part of the commonwealth. I have spent part of my life in non-Commonwealth anglophone Florida, and Florida is unequivocally a geographic and essential economic component of the Anglophone Caribbean. I have corrected this mistake, but it has been reverted.

As for PR, you do have historic roots to the Anglophone world: you are a territory of the United States. If you don't want Anglophone tourists, I suppose that's OK. For other editors, it's important to realize that PR's status within the United States is very much a political one that has been troubled by acts of violence in the past.

I've edited the title of this subject because the Florida issue is related to the PR issue. -- (talk) 22:48, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Reverse the Redirect?[edit]

I propose that, rather than "Commonwealth Caribbean" redirecting to "Anglophone Caribbean", "Anglophone Caribbean" should redirect to "Commonwealth Caribbean". I say this because I find that Commonwealth Caribbean is far more common thatn Anglophone Caribbean. In fact, I've never heard the term on the TV or Radio (West Indian or not), and I've only just discovered from an Amazon search that it is used in some books. Does anyone have any reason for why Anglophone Caribbean should be given preference to Commonwealth Caribbean? ~ Hairouna 20:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

None whatsoever. I'm not sure about elsewhere, but I've never heard anyone in Dominica use the term "Anglophone Caribbean" --Steve Foerster 22:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
"Anglophone Caribbean" is a UN and other various high level NGO terminology. Various independent Caribbean states refer to themselves as that at the UN and in other fora instead of "Commonwealth Caribbean". CaribDigita 23:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
The name issue is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Caribbean. Jonchapple (talk) 11:09, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

The Commonwealth of Nations is a political organization, which not all of the Anglophone Caribbean is a part. Also, while a political rift could quickly change the status of the Commonwealth (see Republic of Ireland), anglophone status would have a much longer transition period. -- (talk) 22:53, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

We can't make up our own terminology, we need to go on what's verifiable. "Commonwealth Caribbean" is the term in common usage, with 238,000 hits on Google Books. "Anglophone Caribbean" by contrast has 33,300. A section in the article is dedicated to those countries that are sometimes considered to part of the grouping, but aren't in the Commonwealth. JonC 08:34, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

The Dutch part seems rather confusing?[edit]

Don't schools in the Dutch isles still also teach German and French as well alongside English and Dutch??? To my understanding I thought the schools in the Dutch W.I. taught 5 or 6 languages total? Also not too sure about the part of not really imposing on the Dutch W.I.? Suriname close by is very much Dutch speaking and for a while remained a linguistic gap between Suriname and the rest of CARICOM. As seen on [1] CaribDigita (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

The Dutch isles of Sint Maarten, Saba, and St. Eustatius speak English as the main language. Suriname speaks Sranan Tongo as mother tongue, while Dutch is the sole official language. Suriname is not included on this list.


Er .... Bermuda is nowhere near the Caribbean. This must be questionable. Il Castrato (talk) 21:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm OK with it, but if they are going to include Bermuda, Florida and perhaps PR should also be included. British tourists who want a vacation with pleasant weather would not be unhappy with Bermuda. -- (talk) 22:50, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Not part of Anglophone Caribbean[edit]

How are the Dutch speaking islands of Sint Maarten, Saba and Sint Eustatius part of the 'Anglophone' Caribbean? I am going to remove this from the page. (talk) 22:08, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

The native language of Sint Maarten, Saba, and Sint Eustatius is English, as well as an English-creole, due to a lack of Dutch cultural influence during the colonial era. Most of the European settlers on these islands were from Great Britain. English has the status of official language in these islands, along with Dutch. The term "Dutch-speaking Caribbean" is a bit of a misnomer, because none of the Dutch islands speak Dutch as a mother tongue.

Vgmaster (talk) 23:05, 31 July 2014 (UTC)