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notability[edit]

Cookie Clicker certainly meets notability requirements! I'm surprised this hasn't been intensely debated. It even has a Know Your Meme page: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/cookie-clicker 69.144.201.50 (talk) 06:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Cookie Clicker is somewhat notable, but people definitely shouldn't keep expanding it like they currently have been, because wikipedia is not a manual.  :) Describing the subject by rote is not the same as synthesizing a source or establishing notability. It'd be notable to describe how the gameplay is substantially unique or popular amongst all other games, if that's the case. Or how it started a trend, if that's the case. One criteria by which an article deserves to exist at all, is a demonstrated potential that it can sprout legs and grow into progressive article classes. Not just that it can remain a stub or become a stubbier stub. Furthermore it seems that all these articles in the 'see also' section should be merged with this one, because they all suffer the same fate of going nowhere, and merging would help to alleviate it. Indeed, those articles literally are part of the notability of this article. That's just my two cents' worth of wikipedia policy! — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 06:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I may have overstated my claim about merging those articles, as they are different entities made by different people, and some of them are significantly notable on their own. If anything, maybe there is a new genre of video game called the "idle game", which needs its own article and categories to encompass them all. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 23:10, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
There are places on the internet where this new genre is called "Incremental Games", which seems like an apt description. I agree that there are enough games of this style to justify a genre article. 173.81.203.175 (talk) 02:03, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Sandcastle Builder[edit]

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sandcastle+Builder&oq=Sandcastle+Builder&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i65l3j69i60l2.7899j0j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

Game inspired by Time (xkcd) and Cookie Clicker. Appears to be rather popular but do you think it's notable enough for a wikipedia article?31.55.95.9 (talk) 19:13, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

possible edits[edit]

Hey guys, I just want to ask if it would be alright if I made a few edits to this wiki page, considering the fact that it is a stub and all. I was thinking of adding more information on the creation, and growth of Cookie Clicker and also elaborating on the fact that it can be considered one of the major games of the "Idle game" movement. Please reply back and let me know what you guys think, any comments would be highly appreciated Lizzzard12 (talk) 20:13, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi there. I kinda wrote my own summary of a roadmap in a comment above, long ago. If you have notable content from a reliable source, which ties this silly game into the big picture, then that would be really good. The idea of an "idle game" movement could be notable, if Cookie Clicker has a significant position within the history of that idea. It's like it's so non-notable that it's notable. As long as we're not just adding content for its own sake, because there are a lot of things that Wikipedia is not.— Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 22:56, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey, thank you so much for your reply :) And I agree completely with what you're saying; Cookie Clicker is such a notable game, and I was surprised when I saw that its Wiki page was a stub. Anyways, I am relatively new to this but I will try my best and add whatever edits that I can. Also, feel free to add whatever you feel necessary to my edits, I'd really enjoy seeing what extra information you can pull, considering how passionate you seem to be about the subject.Lizzzard12 (talk) 23:41, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm passionate about how ridiculous this subject is, and I'm passionate about Wikipedia. I don't know jack about this game.  ;) So the two somehow intersect. Your feedback inspired my comment on the deletion page for Clicking Bad. Someone gave some references for Cookie Clicker. Check it. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 02:35, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey there, I reverted Lizzzard12's edits because they contained too many inaccuracies : 82.226.253.72 (talk) 21:02, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Cookie Clicker was created in 2013, not 2010
  • it is not a spin-off of Cow Clicker
  • it was first shared on 4chan, and not Twitter
  • no source on the "200,000 players a day"
I appreciate that, but most of this is sourced. The one date is a typo, easily fixed. If there are other inaccuracies, it is best to fix those one or two minor issues or tag with the CN template than remove tons of content. -- ferret (talk) 22:54, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Fine, but the "history" section still feels really out of place, especially since Cookie Clicker is, again, not a Cow Clicker spin-off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.253.72 (talk) 00:00, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi guys. First, Lizzzard12 made some good contributions. Though unfortunately most of the bulk of it was basically the opposite of what an encyclopedia is, and can't be retained, the overall impetus and direction were correct and necessary. The piece about idle gaming is dynamite. You should see the end result as a success. Don't feel badly about the bumpy road along the way, and please continue to study the foundations of Wikipedia (WP:5, WP:NOT, WP:FIRST, etc). Second, 82.226.253.72 presumably won't be communicating via edit war anymore, and hopefully Ferret and I have addressed the concerns raised there. But if not, then do speak here, preferably with sources if possible. I thank you all for contributing, and my personal view on the significance of this game has totally changed, lol. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 01:52, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Mobile Gameplay Version Question[edit]

So I have recently noticed that there is no section for the mobile version of Cookie Clicker called "Cookie Clickers". They are similar, but the mobile version of the game has different in-game modifications; these include the following: the faster a player taps his screen, the higher the score multiplier rises; after tapping the large cookie for long enough, valuable golden cookies fall and give "vaults" of points to players upon clicking one of them; and the score multiplier is temporarily multiplied by ten times after every five minutes.

Now, after my having said all of that, would it be considered undue were I to add a subsection under the "Gameplay" section called "Mobile version" with all necessary information? I would like to contribute to this page, but I also want to avoid the given undue weight. The reason why I am asking for this section is because the majority of these players also try the mobile version of this game. Gamingforfun365 (talk) 04:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

There is no mobile version, the only version is on the website which can be played on mobile (although poorly). There is also a app called Adventure Quest Dragons which is closely related but is not the same game. The app you are talking about is a knock-off. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 06:09, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Then, I guess that it would be undue to add that information to this article. Thank thee for thy explanation; I appreciate valid excuses for such things. Gamingforfun365 (talk) 11:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
@Gamingforfun365: Also note FYI that you'd need reliable sources saying all of this--not your own reckoning. Including why it's notable. — Smuckola(talk) 19:10, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Cookie Clicker is very relevant to Cookie Clickers, but not visa versa. If you find significant coverage of Cookie Clicker that mentions Cookie Clickers, then maybe it should be added, otherwise it should be on its own article (though that didn't work out the last time). Adding info about another game to this article could very well be undue weight, it all depends on the sources. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 01:25, 17 May 2015 (UTC)