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Pale Ale[edit]

Why is the sparkling ale the most famous? Their Pale Ale is more popular on tap and in bottles. Ozdaren 23:14, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's more common in bars outside of South Australia at least. In Melbourne you're more likely to see the Sparkling (and in Sydney). Although in recent years it's more common to see both. Stewart Smith 15:41 24 September 2006

Dr Tims[edit]

I have only seen this at one college function. I believe it is a variety of Coopers. Does anyone know anything more? --Xyzzyva 07:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not my favourite (I stick with good ol' pale) but its the personal brew of Dr Tim himself! michael talk 09:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its essentially Pale Ale in a can. Was originally going to be called such, but they decided the taste was too different from the stuff in the bottle, so they gave it a different name NTRabbit 04:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC) -- Dr Tims was an experiment to get a Pale Ale equivalent into a can. One that worked.[reply]

Why a can?
Glass bottles are a problem as they are wisely not allowed for nearly all major outdoor events (Australia's famous weather means there are many of these!) such a triple J's Big Day Out.

What was the problem? Other beers use cans!
Because of the secondary fermentation used in Cooper's Ales it was only able to made in bottles. Cans are not strong enough to withstand the pressure built up during the 4-6 week secondary fermentation.

What was the solution?
A unique strain of the coopers yeast was developed that generates less pressure during fermentation.

Why is it called 'Dr Tim's' and not 'Pale Ale'?
Coopers are keen to protect the branding of Pale ale, and with a different yeast the new beer has a slightly different flavour. Additionally, many drinkers aver that cans impart a different (less pleasant) taste to the ale. The solution was to differentiate the product with a new name.

And here did the name come from?
The South Australian manufacturers of the cans delivered a large batch with a label they had invented, as a joke. The name stuck. The Managing Director of Coopers Brewery is Dr Tim Cooper - who is both an MD doctor and a Doctor of Medicine (Bristol)(awarded for medical research). [1]

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.229.243 (talk) 06:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update on Dr. Tims, as from mid 2019 Dr Tim's is being retired and replaced by the standard Pale Ale, in cans. The last batches of Dr. Tims were bought by Aldi in early 2019 and sold off on special (I bought a carton.. basically identical beer to the pale). I have also tried the canned pale ale and there's no problem with over carbonation. These people run a sophiticated modern brewery after all. MichaelGG (talk) 05:32, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not the only SA beer available interstate[edit]

I think the comment about Cooper's being the only SA beer available outside the state is incorrect. Southwark has long been commonly available in bottle shops in NSW. Shermozle

Southwark is occasionally available in Queensland and I recently drank West End on tap in Alice Springs (NT)MichaelGG

That could be true. West End is also available in Broken Hill (though BH is considered by some to be an SA outpost anyway). SA beer being available in the NT could be a hangover from NT's connection to SA in the past. Ozdaren 04:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only good SA beer available interstate? West End is rubbish. Should this page have some mention of the home brews?Ticklemygrits 15:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the sentence stating that Coopers is the only SA beer sold interstate, as it's wrong. I have bought Southwark Premium in Sydney from several bottle shops, and have seen it in Sydney pubs.Kim.mason 06:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The statement that Coopers is available on tap as a specialty beer in some bars is perhaps out of date. Following sales pushes in the last few years, Coopers Pale Ale on tap is now very common throughout New South Wales and into Queensland. Original research here in Taree NSW (a "working class" town) Coopers Pale Ale is in over half the pubs and clubs in town. Enjoyable original research. --MichaelGG (talk) 10:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Coopers continues to make inroads into New South Wales pubs - the Pale Ale is now very commonly found on tap along with Light and the occasional Mild, and I have altered the article appropriately. --MichaelGG (talk) 05:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is Coopers the exemplar for Australian pale ale? Have a look at the talk page on Pale ale. Any thoughts? Ozdaren 04:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bought Out?[edit]

I may be wrong but I very vividly remember something in the media a number of years ago about an 'American Brewery' buying Coopers? Which would implicate that it is now an American beer? Please check —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.217.137.115 (talk) 04:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The brewery is still family owned and is certainly not American! scharks 09:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There was an attempt to buy it but it didn't happen. I'm not sure if there was any American involvement. Ben Aveling 10:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there was an attempt to buy it - by Kirin-owned Lion Nathan. i.e. Japanese. i.e. NO American involvement. (Refer to the article.) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:28, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

San check please[edit]

Is this right? Regards, Ben Aveling 01:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC) [reply]


I've never seen anyone roll one like that, in my experience, people generally tip the bottle upside down and gently rotate it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.90.161.117 (talk) 14:26, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
Yes the roll is as pictured, typically on the bar.
More often performed with Sparkling than Pale - Sparkles is stronger!

I'd dispute that -- although it is stronger, Sparkling has less sediment on average. No-one I know tips Sparkling, almost everyone tips the Pale. I've never seen anyone roll the bottle as illustrated -- there would be too great a chance of the contents overflowing when it opened. 121.45.13.27 (talk) 02:22, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yep that's how its done. and you keep the lid on when rolling. its done before opening (obviously!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.169.46 (talk) 12:26, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's an affectation. Just twist the lid and pour. Doug butler (talk) 14:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Family owned[edit]

Isn't it like the largest or only commercial family owned brewery in australia/world or something Althalitus (talk) 04:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nowadays (2017) it is the largest Australian-owned brewery - family-owned or otherwise. (I hope it's not the only commercial family-owned brewery!) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:33, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Remove first photo[edit]

The first photo needs to be removed. It is quite clearly not the Coopers brewery. The building in the photo is even labelled "Cascade Brewery". 60.242.110.149 (talk) 11:15, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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2017 "Fake news" beat up[edit]

User:Mikeybear has commented "Removed language from heading that diminished the magnitude of the situation". The situation has no magnitude - it's a fake-news beat-up. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:22, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I am not saying the topic is not important. Nor is Coopers saying that. What I'm saying is the coverage and reported reaction bears no relationship to reality. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:22, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Market share & Exports[edit]

I am surprised that there seems to be no information here about Coopers market share in Australia, or even in Adelaide. Further, there seems no mention of overseas export , which is - anecdotally- extensive, even remarkable.I hope I can rectify this in some way ````

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