Talk:Cooperstown, New York

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Metric?[edit]

Why are the metric units listed first? R'son-W 19:58, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

VisitingCooperstown.com is told from the perspective of tourists[edit]

VisitingCooperstown.com is a loving tribute to Cooperstown, N.Y., told from the perspective of tourists and can be accessed at http://www.visitingcooperstown.com. 4.154.254.229 15:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC) Eric H.

Maps[edit]

I think this should be incorperated in ALL articles dealing with cites and towns. How about having some maps to see where exactly this place is?

Woolworths or Newberrys[edit]

Did CVS buy the old Newberry's store on Main Street? If so, the article should refer to that rather than Woolworths, which i don't recall ever had an outlet in Cooperstown. I'm not there anymore so don't know if CVS is in the old Newberry's store.Drgitlow 03:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

No, CVS did not purchase the former Newberry's store. Newberry's was located between the Hall of Fame and F. R. Wood's on the south side of Main Street, e.g. the Post Office on the north side. The building (the site of which had once been the original Danny's Market) was acquired by the Clark Estates after the bankruptcy and liquidation of J.J. Newberry parent company in the 1990's. Today what occupies that retail space (leased by the Clark Estates) is a down-market 5-and-dime-esq store called the "Cooperstown General Store".

The CVS is where the former A&P was located: 100 Main Street. It serves as the only drug store within the Village limits following the departure of Whithey's in the 1980's and the exodus in the 1990's of Church & Scott on the outskirts of the Village. As a native of the Village and a family having lived there for over 60 years no one I've spoken to recalls there being a Woolworths in Cooperstown. Oneonta however did have one on Main Street. --Kellsboro Jack 01:35, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your additions and corrections to the article. As a teenager, I lived in Cooperstown part-time from 1970 to 1977 and was distressed by the many changes to the town fabric that I found when visiting again in the late 90s. Main Street in particular changed from a true village environment which happened to play host to the Baseball Hall of Fame to a tourist attraction site that focused on the Hall of Fame. Clearly there is still a substantial financial base to the area, as can be seen with the new Clark Gym and other improvements, but the loss of necessities of small town Main Streets, which took place elsewhere in the 60s and 70s, finally seemed to catch up with Cooperstown in the 80s and 90s. I can't imagine that this hasn't led to changes in satisfaction of town residents who, while I was there, had everything they needed within walking distance of home - grocery, hardware, clothing, toys, movies, and so forth. Drgitlow 01:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
By the way, my first year there, in 1970, was Danny's last year running his market. At that point, it was just to the left of Newberry's (as viewed from the street). He was a very sweet and warm gentleman, and I recall that much of his store was quite old-fashioned, with him or his staff pulling down items from high shelves in response to customer requests. From your comment, it sounds like he moved his store there after Newberry's came into town, yes? Drgitlow 01:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Cooperstown Facts[edit]

What's with all the quote marks? 72.43.255.76

Modifications[edit]

The overall entry for Cooperstown needs some modifications with entries. I'll start with taking this action to delete this entry: 'It also contains Cooperstown Dreams Park, a youth baseball tournament'.

The 'Cooperstown Dreams Park' is not located whatsoever in the Village or Township. It is located in the district of Hartwick Seminary which is in excess of 4 miles south of the Village. --Kellsboro Jack 16:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Cooperstown Writers[edit]

To find true authenticity as an Upstate New York Writer one must wander around our lakes and cool mountains and gather a sense of the history from the small churchyards and old stone walls. W.W. Lord was such and I removed the pejorative reference from the Bostonian Poe.

The Botendaddy was born at Mary Imogene Basset in 1961, a true-born Yankee Cooperstownian.

To be fair, we need some standards for who is to be considered a Cooperstown writer. Lauren Groff for example makes Cooperstown the centerpiece of her novel "The Monsters of Templeton". She was born and raised in Cooperstown. She is legit. In my view, you must be:

1. born in Cooperstown, or 2. spent the majority of your writing career in Cooperstown, including being published while a resident, with Cooperstown being a topic of some of your works, or 3. lived for a signficant portion of your life in Cooperstown and a significant portion of your published work (not blogging) must be devoted to Cooperstown, its history, its famous citizens and so forth or 4. are otherwise generally recognized by literary critics and/or scholars as a Cooperstown writer.

If one's works honestly fit none of the above, then one has a lot of writing to do to be considered along with Cooper and Lord and Groff. I am the Botendaddy 03:13, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I added Marly Youmans back in. She has a few published works about Cooperstown and an upcoming Novella "Glimmerglass". I stand updated. I am the Botendaddy 00:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

The Clark Family- Bias in this Section[edit]

There are quite a few residents of Cooperstown who feel that the Clark Foundation and Jane herself have turned Cooperstown from a small town with a lot of class and character that happens to have a baseball museum, into a baseball-hawking tourist dump. Can you objectively call them "good stewards" when so many people would strongly disagree with that statement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.173.205.152 (talk) 05:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Responded on user's talk page. --JBC3 (talk) 20:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

While not a forum for debate I would counter the above remark in saying that the Clark Foundation is not a governmental organization or even quasi-governmental. As such to make the assertion that there is an ability for Ms Clark, who holds no elected office or regulatory seat, or any Clark entities to restrict / control the commerce of Main Street is ludicrous. The sands of time have shifted under the feet of the village with 'baseball' going from being just one of a plethora of attractions to now being so dominant. Be it good or bad for year-round residents, tourist demand has seemingly supported the overwhelming succession of baseball-focused shops to open. The Baseball Hall of Fame did in the 1980's try to thwart Larry Fritsch from his card museum being opened. It ultimately opened - only to close a relatively short time later - but in many ways kicked off the progression of more such baseball shops to sprout up. In the mean time the Clark family has continued to put money into the Village like no other. That ranges from beautification efforts, to underwriting the Cooperstown trolley system, to leaving large parcels of land untouched and off limits to development. --Kellsboro Jack (talk) 14:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC)