Talk:Country Club District

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See also and image tag[edit]

The image tag for 5500 Ward Parkway was far too lengthy and was irrelevant. M.B. Nelson was not notable; the home's location, however, is notable. Also, "see also" is for articles which either (1) bear materially on the article at hand, or (2) which might interest readers who were interested in this article. Ladue, Missouri and Quality Hill certainly fit the second category. Ladue is St. Louis's "country club district," and Quality Hill was to Kansas City in the 19th century what Sunset Hill is to Kansas City in the 20th/21st centuries. They ought to remain. 65.28.2.218 04:43, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

While the image tag for 5500 Ward Parkway might have been lengthy, the original listing as belonging to William Rockhill Nelson was false and a particularly good example of why sources need to be cited, because otherwise writers will rely on local lore which does not belong in an encyclopedia. The article about Ladue, Missouri is not relevant, unless one frames Kansas City in the context of competing with St. Louis, which is so typical of Missourians, particularly those from St. Louis. The cities occupy the same state, but beyond that there is no relevance. Therefore, including links to other, comparable neighborhoods such as Lake Forest, Bel Air, and River Oaks (in which J.C. Nichols had a role in developing) is also appropriate. The grammar needs to be cleaned up, and sources need to be cited. I suggest the writer apply to a proper university so that he or she can learn something about scholarship.

The use of the word "richest" to describe the socioeconomic status of the residents of the neighborhood is not as precise as the word "wealthiest." When one describes something as rich, there are a number of definitions and connotations. In contrast, wealth is far more precise a word, and would better serve this article. What is particularly questionable is whether Kate Spade or William Rockhill Nelson were residents of this neighborhood. Both are obviously from Kansas City, but the writer cites no evidence (or even hints that there is evidence) that Kate Spade was a resident of the neighborhood. Moreover, whether William Rockhill Nelson resided in the J.C. Nichols neighborhood is HIGHLY SUSPECT: aside from the fact that the author of this article was obviously wrong in misidentifying the home at 5500 Ward Parkway as belonging to William Rockhill Nelson (it actually belonged to Mac B. Nelson - no relation), William Rockhill Nelson planned his own neighborhood in Kansas City known as "Rockhill" which is adjacent to Nelson-Atkins Museum and the University of Missouri-Kansas City, where he lived (and it's still known as Rockhill to this day); and, furthermore, Nelson died in 1915, when the Country Club District was only getting started. For all these reasons, sources need to be cited. The writer cannot author history from what he heard from local folklore, rumor, and, quite frankly, gossip. 24.163.240.142 05:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)MJN