Talk:Crimes Act

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@Smasongarrison and @Aboutmovies: I think this page qualifies as a list. As @James500 points out, disambiguation pages do not have red links, as these serve as a way to find the correct Wikipedia article among a plethora of similar titles. Disambiguation pages have a set introduction and a particular format. They do not serve as indexes of articles that need to be written. While this page might have started life as a disambiguation page, it appears to have evolved into something far more interesting. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 23:02, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Shall we create a Crimes Act (Disambiguation) page to make that distinction clearer? Mason (talk) 23:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the point, as such a page would merely duplicate this one. The purpose of a disambiguation page is to resolve the dilemma of having different articles about different and diverse subjects with exactly the same name and are therefore ambiguously named. In Wikipedia, such ambiguity is resolved by having parenthetical disambiguators in the titles of each article. That is not the case for the Crimes Act because all the article titles naturally include their year of passage through the particular legislature concerned, and are able to be listed here within the wider context of this article, thus we have

all appearing in this article. None of these article titles need any further disambiguation because they are all named distinctly differently. However, this article is far more informative and is still the primary topic for any disambiguation page anyway. Also, the article could reference articles like criminal act, which are relevant to the subject here, but would not necessary be added to a disambiguation page. Disambiguation pages have a specific introduction and layout, including a disambiguation notice at the bottom of the page. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:13, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the WikiProject Disambiguation banner because I noticed the article class was changed to a "List", thus meaning the article is outside the scope of that project. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 22:11, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should use Title Case[edit]

This article was recently moved from the title using title case of Crimes Act to the sentence case version of crimes act claiming that MOS:AT justifies the move. There is an exception that states: "... , except where title case would be expected were the title to occur in ordinary prose." The naming conventions for capitalization points out that where the article title is a proper name then the initial letters in all words of the proper name should be capitalized. The article states that the words "Crimes Act" is a stock title. Because it is a title then title case should be applied to both the article title and in the text, too. This would also be consistent with particular legislation called "Crimes Act" by various legislatures. The legislation normally contains a statement that says something like "This Act may be cited as the Crimes Act ...." - from this statement I make two points (1) an "Act" of a legislature is a proper name and is capitalized in ordinary text and the title of a particular piece of legislation is also a proper name and is also capitalized in ordinary text. That means MOS:AT does NOT say to use sentence case, rather it advises to use title case because this is a proper name and is the exception to the sentence case rule.

Similarly, because both "Act" and "Crimes Act" are proper names, the guideline MOS:CAPS also needs to be applied in the proper name context, so [this edit] is incorrect because the proper names are being un-capitalized inappropriately. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:52, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page moved back to proper name title. If anyone wishes to move this page again, please consider that the move will be considered controversial by me and the potentially controversial page move process needs to be used. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 10:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]