Talk:Crown colony

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Raison d'être[edit]

I created this article as "Crown colony" was previously pointing to British Overseas Territory. Whilst "BOT" replaced the term British Dependent Territory in 2002, which in turn replaced Crown colony in 1981, it is rather misleading to have lots of country and state articles (such as Jamaica or Virginia) pointing to BOT when they were Crown colonies, and became independent decades if not centuries before 1981. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 16:03, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Just to remind you people here, crown colony was not exclusive to the British Empire, any colony in that sense was a crown colony wether it was in the Spanish Empire, Portuguese Empire, etc.--EuroHistoryTeacher (talk) 22:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
So provide a reference showing that other empires' colonies are referred to as "Crown colonies" by English language historians. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 03:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Just look at Danish_Gold_Coast, it is desribed as being a former crown colony. A crown colony is a colony owned by the crown (the monarch of any given monarchy), most colonies being founded by chartered company.85.83.81.228 (talk) 17:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
That article doesn't source its comment and looking at the cited weblink for the article there is no mention of the term at all. BTW wikipedia doesn't reference itself, that doesn't justify the comment. Justin talk 18:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
[1] and [2] if you want links.77.215.24.42 (talk) 10:25, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

New Zealand[edit]

NZ Appears to have been under Crown Colony governance too. According to the website of the Governor-Gerneral of NZ. NZ was a Crown Colony from around 1841 to 1853, at which time NZ became self-governing. Website of the Governor General -- CaribDigita (talk) 20:36, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

What's your point? NZ is mentioned. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 23:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I think the point is that the article says that the term crown colony was not used to describe Australia or New Zealand. I do not think that is correct in relation to Australia and according to CaribDigita not correct for NZ either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.214.216 (talk) 02:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Messy[edit]

This article is a confused and confusing mess. Not great as well to have a lead twice as long as the core of the article.

Then you have a long (meaningless or misleading because each entry is too short and imprecise) "List of Crown Colonies" with the usual little flaggy flags, followed by the weirdest definition for Crown colony: A territory belonging by settlement, conquest or annexation to the British Crown or to an independent Commonwealth country.

???

I suspect that most people ending up here looking for a clear and simple definition of what was a Crown colony will leave more confused than they were before.

Why not start with a good, simple definition of "Crown colony" as you may find in a decent dictionary: A British colony whose legislature and administration was controlled by the Crown, represented by a governor (Oxford Dictionaries). Simply put, a Crown colony was a colony with no self-government, no representative government, or very little of it. For instance, the "Crown Colony Period" in New Zealand history is said to be the period when the colony had no elected assembly (1840-1853).

We could also dispense with "The List" but I know too many editors insist in having those lists with the proper little flaggy flags. Ok, so let's keep the list (full of errors as it is), but let's have at least a decent article, starting with a simple, clear definition. --Lubiesque (talk) 22:56, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Multiple flags[edit]

Is it really necessary to have all those flags on the list of colonies? I mean, some have four flags! It's messy and confusing. Why not have just the Colonial flag (is it really that important to have the modern-day flags, too)? 99.102.176.146 (talk) 18:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)