Talk:Crurotarsi

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Can someone translate this article into ENGLISH? Not technicalese, ENGLISH.

It is in English ;-) I wrote this article in a non-technical way; I don't know how much more non-technical one can get! After all, it is necessary to define these concepts in a technical manner, because it is a technical subject, it is the same in field of science; paleontology and zoology are no exception. Have a read of Benton 2004; excellent textbook, very readable, non-technical (well, i think so), much easier to read than Carroll 1988 (actually Benton 2004 is a good intro to Carroll 1988 because he introduces all thes etchnical concepts very well), but you still have to learn the jargon, and that book introduces the jargon.

references:

Benton, M. J. (2004), Vertebrate Paleontology, 3rd ed. Blackwell Science Ltd
Carroll, R. L. (1988), Vertebrate Paleontology and Evolution, WH Freeman & Co.

M Alan Kazlev 09:14, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An encyclopedia is not a novel.--MWAK 13:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of the name[edit]

The lede states the name was erected in 1991 by Paul Sereno, but the taxobox gives a reference to Sereno & Arcucci (1990). So was the origin 1991 or 1990? Icalanise (talk) 16:27, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like 1990 is correct. [1] MMartyniuk (talk) 22:38, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Taxonomic Correctness[edit]

Hi, I have recently been reading works such as that of Brussate et.al and it becomes apparent that on this particular article, Archosauria is a clade within Crurotarsi. Whereas, in such woks that I have read, isn't Crurotarsi a taxon within Archosauria, and subsequently sister taxon with Avemetatarsalia (Ornithodira). Sadly, I don't know how to edit a Taxobox, so could someone else possibly do so?--GaryGLouw 17:09, 1 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GaryLouw19 (talk • contribs)

Yes, you're absolutely right. I was very confused as this article directly contradicts the main article on Archosaurs it's linked to. Someone should fix that.--MWheeler 06:15, 1 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.179.17 (talk)

This article takes Nesbitt's article as confirmed and accepted by the mainstream, but I'm not sure it has been yet. A 2016 article (described in the Phytosauria article) refuted Nesbitt's findings and put Phytosauria back into Pseudosuchia. A neutral Crurotarsi article should define it as it is defined taxonomically: the clade that contains both Phytosauria and Crocodylidae. From there the article can discuss the position of Phytosauria vs. Pseudosuchia and the uncertainty surrounding Avemetatarsalia's position. Perhaps the rewrite can start with excavating some of the material from earlier versions of this article, and some from Phytosauria? 2601:441:4900:A6E0:BC24:250B:783:9812 (talk) 00:13, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]