Talk:Crying Wind

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Edit request from Gillevil, 1 September 2011[edit]

Please consider removing Crying WInd all together from Wikipedia as she is often targeted by former High school bullies, who for some reason continue to target her nearly 50 years later, and who do not know the true and complete story of Crying WInd's past.


Gillevil (talk) 19:10, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done None of these assertions are backed by any sources whatsoever; this is just Linda Stafford's present cover story for all the information that has been reported about her over the years. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:50, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2014[edit]

Please remove Crying Wind from Wikipedia, this is a slanderous website that has been used by some jealous bullies, much of this web posting is completely untrue and unverifiable and is causing harm.

128.171.199.173 (talk) 23:30, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What content in this article do you contend is false? Please be specific, and provide verifiable citations to reliable published sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:54, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 02:22, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Biographies of Living Persons Noticeboard[edit]

There's a discussion at BLPN, here.Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:11, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe this source would be useful[edit]

Kievit, Joyce Ann. "Crying Wind" in Native American Women: A Biographical Dictionary, p. 79 (Bataille and Lisa, eds., Routledge, 2001). User:Orangemike, do you think this source is reliable?Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly not. It blatantly fails WP:NPOV, and contains a number of assertions that have been proven false over and over again. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:36, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In this Wikipedia article, the two sources that seem to be contrary to Native American Women: A Biographical Dictionary are these:

  • "'Crying Wind' is Back, but Not as a Biography This Time". Christianity Today January 23, 1981; v. 25, p. 44
  • Lindskoog, Kathryn Ann. Fakes, Frauds, & Other Malarkey: 301 Amazing Stories & How Not to be Fooled. 1993: Hope Publishing House; pp. 103-104. NOTE: This book is rather obscure. WorldCat says that not a single library in New England has it.

I don't have either of these two references, do you, User:Orangemike? And why do you think they're more reliable than the more recent book Native American Women: A Biographical Dictionary? Routledge is a reputable publisher, but I've never heard of Hope Publishing House.Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:04, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read the entry in that "dictionary"? It's shamelessly promotional, and betrays a lack of NPOV which forces me to conclude that the content came from "Crying Wind" herself (or her press kit). --Orange Mike | Talk 15:00, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the last couple sentences are a bit syrupy, User:Orangemike, but nothing that a good book reviewer would not be entitled to say. How come you haven't participated in the discussion at WP:BLPN about Crying Wind? I would really like to feel like we are thoroughly addressing the concerns expressed there. Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 15:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the Lindskoog reference from this Wikipedia article. This book is extremely obscure; it is held by not one library in New England, according to WorldCat.[1] There is no Wikipedia article abut the publisher, Hope Publishing. The author Kathryn Lindskoog seems to be primarily notable for a controversial claim about C.S. Lewis about which the son of C.S. Lewis has said: "Her fanciful theories have been pretty thoroughly discredited."Anythingyouwant (talk) 20:30, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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