Talk:Masih ad-Dajjal

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Pronunciation of the name is incorrect[edit]

The name is Arabic derived and it should be spelled as Al-Dajjal and not Ad-Dajjal. Ad-Dajjal is an absolute wrong pronunciation for the name. The name in Arabic is الدجال , first letters are A and L which compares to "The" in English. Then دجال which consist of D, G, A, L. Pronounced Dajjal. The first A and L would make it equivalent to "The Dajjal" , the Arabic equivalent of Al-Dajjal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.39.159 (talk) 02:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

  • There are different accepted ways to transliterate Arabic. The Arabic definite article or lam taʿrīf is assimilated before so-called 'solar consonants', that is dentals and alveolars. Hence

the pronunciation is actually ad-daǧǧāl. However, to more easily identify the morphology of the word, some transcribers prefer to always write the def. article as al-.--Simha (talk) 13:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Spelling[edit]

Should be unified throughout the article. Either dajjal or daǧǧāl, the latter is preferable. Especially the eschatology section is a mess. Mistakes include grammar "ḥadīth ... give". Ḥadīth is singular, so *gives* or use the plural, either anglicized as ḥadīths or Arabic aḥadīth. Length is sometimes indicated as in nūrī, sometimes not as in kafir read kāfir etc.--Simha (talk) 13:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

place where ad-dajjal will appear?[edit]

it is written in the article: between syria and iraq. the place is sometimes named as sebbiah (or equal). more information needed to add to article, please help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.136.15 (talk) 23:11, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

source: bouhari, fayzailu'l medina 9, muslim, feetan 123: Mohammad (S.A.W.) said: except mekka and madina there will be no land dajjal wont trample down. All gateways to mekka and madina will be each guarded by angels, who protect this places. (dajjal) will appear at the place named as-sabbeeha. then it will shake the community of madi...na with three quakes. on the verge of this, all unbelievers and hypocriticals (who stay in the city) will come (leave the city for dajjal).194.98.43.12 (talk) 18:32, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

The prophet (S.A.W),mentioned in a hadeeth that al-dajjal will appear from Esfahan,in Iran.Alhanuty (talk) 02:16, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Reference[edit]

I have given the reference of Ahmadiyya beliefs. Admins. see the reference please don' the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nokhaiz Kaunpal (talkcontribs) 12:09, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

shia[edit]

shias do not believe the dajjal will kill madhi, leave it blank i dont know what they believe but I am sure it is not that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambelland (talkcontribs) 22:36, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Signs[edit]

There is a big problem..after every 2 to 3 months, the signs of Dajjal are being changed by some people, there should be some reference to these signs other wise I suggest the senior users to remove them as after years these "fake" signs would become true.. HunterZone (talk) 18:39, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

There is way more signs into it.Alhanuty (talk) 04:21, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Ahmadiyya Belief[edit]

I have taken down Ahmadiyya belief from this page, this page represents the Islamic View Of False Masih where as Ahamdi's are declared as non muslims in Pakistan this is the state from where ahamdiyya's originated see Mirza_Ghulam_Ahmad and Ahmadiyya. Please refain from adding this section back. Best way to represent Ahamdi's point of view is to create a new page with Ahamdi belief. I removed ahamdis view as par WP:MOSISLAM. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virgininfatuation (talkcontribs) 10:40, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

The fact that the Government of Pakistan has declared that the Ahmadiyya are not Muslim has nothing to do with Wikipedia. We are not bound by their dictates. The Ahmadiyya say they are Muslim and Wikipedia reflects that. Also there is nothing in WP:MOSISLAM that suggests removing their views from any article. In fact Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles#Sunni, Shi'a, Sufi and Ahmadiyya Islam states the an Islamic sect. Also if you had read the guideline properly you would have seen that adding Peace Be Upon Him is incorrect. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 19:11, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Ahmadiyah are not Muslims,they have conflicting beliefs way different that other Muslims,as Sunnis or Shias,even different that Sufis,so my arguement,put it in another article,as the Christians belief in the anti-Christ.Alhanuty (talk) 16:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Warren Ellis' Supergod[edit]

The comic book series Supergod includes a character named Dajjal, based on this idea. Perhaps this should be included? ComicVine Reference 198.255.175.17 (talk) 19:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

This article is about an evil-person that both Christians and Muslims believe will wreak havoc and trials on the entire planet,this article is not about a comic thing,this is about something very serious.Alhanuty (talk) 02:19, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

(This article is about an evil-person that only Muslims believe...)* From the Christian perspective your Mahdi is identical to our antichrist. Your version of Jesus is identical to our false prophet, and most importantly Isa son of Mary comes holding on to the wings of two fallen angels, NOT RIDING A WHITE HORSE DESTROYING FILTH. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.65.213.70 (talk) 06:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Description of ad Dajjaal[edit]

he will be red im complexion,short,one eyed,with thick curly hair,pigeon toed,hunch backed,with a large forehead — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.157.0.5 (talkcontribs)

Please cite a reliable source for new statements. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:02, 8 May 2014 (UTC)