Talk:Dave Chappelle

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Under "Return"[edit]

There is a quote attributed to Dave Chappelle, it is labeled with a reference number of 28 in superscript, this quote I do not believe to be correct. It appears the author of this quote, did a sort of paraphrasing or mashing together of what he said. If you go to the source which it is said to be referenced by, it takes you to Oprah.com, where he says this:

"So then when I'm on the set, and we're finally taping the sketch, somebody on the set [who] was white laughed in such a way—I know the difference of people laughing with me and people laughing at me—and it was the first time I had ever gotten a laugh that I was uncomfortable with. Not just uncomfortable, but like, should I fire this person?" this is from Oprah's website, URL:http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Chappelles-Story/5


This is different than what is written on his wikipedia page under the section called "Return". This is an error. Because I do not have editing privileges, I cannot edit this error.

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Buddies... ?[edit]

Just an FYI, "buddies" is directed at "buddies," the friendship, not the show.

Fixed Jay Dubya (talk) 21:56, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

"Artist"?[edit]

Currently the article says that Chappelle is an artist. What does that mean? Does he paint? Does he sing? Martin Rundkvist (talk) 19:30, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

It's referring to his comedy work. Stand-up comedy is an art form.Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 02:07, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Not done: As much of a fan of him as I am, that's a stretch. We already say that he's a comedian. I'd expect him to do some watercolors or at least some photography, so I'm taking out. thanks--38.105.132.130 (talk) 21:30, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Comedy Central ranking[edit]

I'm inclined to take down the "100 Greatest Stand-Ups of All Time" ranking in the intro. A forty-third ranking doesn't seem all that objective from the channel whose talks with Chappelle broke down in 2005.--108.14.35.234 (talk) 19:41, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. Go for it. Jay Dubya (talk) 21:57, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

another subcategory before 2003[edit]

I'd like to create a category for the time he co-wrote and co-starred in Half-Baked and the two HBO Comedy specials. These are huge accomplishments for anybody.--Aichik (talk) 22:05, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

That stuff is all mentioned in Early Career at this point. (you probably did this Aichik just noting for future readers) Jay Dubya (talk) 21:59, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Tabloids[edit]

Given the repeated and long lasting attacks tabloids have printed against Chappelle, IMO they are note-worthy. My approach to this is not to cite the tabloids but to cite secondary reliable sources like Time or quoting Chappelle's reactions to the attacks given to a reliable source (like Oprah). The stuff about drugs, mental health, and conspiracy theories about his leaving the show are not just toxic and without factual merit; at this point they represent a huge percentage of the coverage on Chappelle. A NPOV biography must confront and analyze such rumors without emotion and prejudice, based solely on RS. Just my two cents. What does the community think? Jay Dubya (talk) 12:35, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

How to Quote a Book[edit]

One of the primary reasons this article failed GA review, from what I can tell, is sourcing problems. As I was reviewing the sources, it seems that a lot of article editors have cite web down, but aren't familiar with cite book.

I'll spare you guys all the details of book publication information. If you're interested, please drop by my talk page. These are just some brief pointers based on the biggest issues I've seen with this specific article.

First, when citing a book, use the Template:Cite_book. Dont use Template:Cite_web. Thats for web sites!

Amazon publishes only a very small percentage of the books for sale on Amazon. So, about 99.99999% of the time you need to identify a publisher for a citation, Amazon will not be the correct answer.

Let's say you're like me. You know a book has something relevant on the topic at hand. But, you don't want to get up to grab the book from your shelf or (horror of horrors) go to the library or book store (whatever the f*** those are anyway, amirite?). Use Google books to narrow down a quote, and to automatically generate a ref tag with the correct template for you!!!!1! Goto http://books.google.com/ and search for your book. Once youve got it you can search inside the book for your quote. Or, you can just combine the title, quote and author in regular google to send you straight to a page sample including the book. This will send you to a page that looks like this:

http://books.google.com/books?id=JWqnueNtCT8C&pg=PA140&lpg=PA140&dq=dave+chappelle+is+a+minstrel&source=bl&ots=QMbdqiLP0m&sig=AimiaafvAec-cckg8yvWt5kIp1g&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Vzo0U9TIIui-sQS70oGIBA&ved=0CG8Q6AEwCw#v=onepage&q=dave%20chappelle%20is%20a%20minstrel&f=false

You can take that huge URL and use it to generate a complete reference. Goto this web page: http://reftag.appspot.com/ and dump the huge google URL in there. It automagically creates this(minus the ###'s I used so you can see it):

<###ref name="Wisniewski2009">{{###cite book|author=K.A. Wisniewski|title=The Comedy of Dave Chappelle: Critical Essays|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=JWqnueNtCT8C&pg=PA140%7Cdate=2 July 2009|publisher=McFarland|isbn=978-0-7864-5427-3|pages=140–}}</ref>

Which looks like this:

^ K.A. Wisniewski (2 July 2009). The Comedy of Dave Chappelle: Critical Essays. McFarland. pp. 140–. ISBN 978-0-7864-5427-3.

Man its crazy. USE IT. And keep editing. Jay Dubya (talk) 15:08, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Other Notes on Sources[edit]

Websites for retailers reselling a product mentioned in a biography is not a reliable source. A youtube account playing a pirated copy of a film mentioned in a biography is not a source. Blogs are almost never reliable sources. If a blog can't afford to buy its own domain name (and still has a .blogspot.com hanging off the end of it), its not going to be a reliable source. If the New Yorker reprints its contents, it *might* be a reliable source. Only create one reference for a single source; then reproduce it wherever its needed elsewhere in the article. Check out Template:Ref_Name to find out how that works. If you have two pages on the same website that list the same information, create a reference for one of them and ignore the other one (Im talking about where we have created two separate references for www.website.com/stuff and www.website.com/stuff/repeated - where both contain identical content). Im deleting all of the citations that these rules of thumb describe. Jay Dubya (talk) 19:07, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Does it run in the family?[edit]

Is there any clue if he is related perhaps to Pat Chappelle? And if you The parallel of their professions is striking, but I've no idea how to research this myself. Uberhill 08:20, 7 December 2014 (UTC)