Talk:David Paterson

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Andrew Cuomo[edit]

Why isn't he mentioned in the "Senate Appointment" section? He is one of the main candidates fo Hillary Clinton's seat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tad Lincoln (talkcontribs) 03:21, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Corrected NY Post quotation[edit]

"Overall, Paterson has chalked up a heavily liberal record during his more than two decades in state government. " is correct, but it did not end with, "It was bad...really, bad." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aruhnka (talkcontribs) 11:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Acting Lt. Gov.[edit]

As of today, it should be Pedro Espada, Jr., not Dean Skelos. Comments? Bearian (talk) 22:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

  1. There is no such title as "Acting Lt. Gov." The President pro tem assumes the duties of the Lt. Gov., but those are, AFAIK, limited to presiding over the Senate and taking over if the Governor is incapacitated. He doesn't get an executive office space, doesn't get the pay of a Lt. Gov., and would never be treated as anything other than one of the top legislators in Albany.
  2. Skelos disputes that Espada and Smith legally acquired their new offices. Until that legal question is resolved, we should be clear that the situation is in dispute.
Powers T 22:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
O.K. I think you mean that "Smith disputes that Espada and Skelos...." :-) Bearian (talk) 23:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Powers T 01:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Power rating in lead[edit]

I removed "worst" govenor from lead. Maybe work into article with better sources/data. --Tom (talk) 19:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I have rolled back. The lead did not say "worst", it said this: "Paterson is currently the least popular governor in the United States according to an average of six May 2009 polls, with a net approval/disapproval score of -48" and it is sourced to [1], which is a fine source. The statement is factual, and FiveThirtyEight.com is (among other things) the first blog ever selected as a Notable Narrative by the Nieman Foundation for Journalism at Harvard University. It's at least as credible as Time Magazine or some similar national publication. – Quadell (talk) 17:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Maybe work it into the body of the article, if at all, but not needed in the lead. Thanks, --Tom (talk) 18:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Article too long...create new article on the Gillibrand Senate appt?[edit]

This article is too long, so why don't we take parts of this, Gillibrand's, and Caroline Kennedy's to form a new article on the Kirsten Gillibrand Senate Appointment? 04:09, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

That section on Gillibrand's appointment is well-sourced, accurate, but just out-weighs other material in the article. Summary form, not blow-by-blow. Frankly, Gillibrand's appointment can be completely covered in her bio. It's not that big a deal for a stand-alone article. patsw (talk) 15:46, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect Rockefeller information[edit]

"With his swearing-in, Paterson became the first Lieutenant Governor elevated to the governorship in New York due to a vacancy since 1973, when Lieutenant Governor Malcolm Wilson became Governor when Nelson Rockefeller resigned in order to serve as Vice-President of the United States in the administration of President Gerald R. Ford."

This is incorrect. Rockefeller resigned as governor in December 1973, while Ford was still vice president, allegedly to devote time to some commissions he'd set up but perhaps to prepare for a final run at the presidency in 1976 or perhaps just to give Wilson a leg up on the 1974 gubernatorial race. Anyway, the point is that Rockefeller did not resign the governorship in order to become vice president, as the next vacancy in the vice presidency (when Ford ascended to the presidency) didn't occur until eight months later. I didn't make the edit because there are footnotes involved and I didn't want to mess it up beyond repair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.172.249.116 (talk) 16:22, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Lieutenant Governor Ravitch[edit]

Now that Richard Ravitch has been established as Lieutenant Governor, should we 'collapse' the list of 'Acting LTGs' in the Infobox, with the heading Acting Lieutenant Governors? GoodDay (talk) 20:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

"and the highest-ranking black elected official in the history of New York State"

H Carl McCall was elected NYS Comptroller in 1994 and 1998, making him both a higher ranking official than the Senate Minority Leader, and still the highest elected Black official in NYS history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarkpark (talkcontribs) 02:09, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Paterson to resign?[edit]

It's an unconfirmed report for now, so it shouldn't be taken as gospel. However, we should have our wits about us. [2] --Muboshgu (talk) 00:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I've requested semi-protection. ~DC Talk To Me 05:23, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

It's about time - [3]. Now, how to go with this info... --Muboshgu (talk) 17:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Blind governor?![edit]

If he is blind, then does he read the legislations that he has to sign in Braille? Can someone explain how his staff accommodate his needs?--478jjjz (talk) 02:19, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

He's legally blind, not completely blind. He puts his face very close to a document when signing. Powers T 00:10, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Not seeking reelection[edit]

NYDailyNews is reporting he won't see reelection in 2010..

98.207.60.145 (talk) 15:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

The AP, NY1[4], WSJ[5], MSNBC[6], NYT[7], NewsDay[8] etc., etc., etc. all say he will drop out of the race. From my reading of WP:CRYSTAL, this seems to be suitable to include in the article, but apparently not everybody think so. --Jatkins (talk - contribs) 17:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
"Will drop out" and "he has announced he is dropping out" are not the same thing. The former is a prediction; the latter is reported, citeable information.  Frank  |  talk  17:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
"Democratic officials in Washington were informed of Mr. Paterson's plans early Friday, the Associated Press reported."[9] ...is written in past tense, and is not speculation. --Jatkins (talk - contribs) 17:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
They are still "plans", and this is a case of one source reporting on what some other source said. That's how speculation spreads. Note that I'm not saying this isn't a foregone conclusion; what I'm saying is that this is an encyclopedia, and as such, this is inappropriate. It can wait a few hours - if it takes that long.  Frank  |  talk  17:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
I guess the longest we'll have to wait for official confirmation is the planned press conference, though, like you say, it could come sooner if the campaign confirms it. --Jatkins (talk - contribs) 17:12, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

This is a frequent problem when dealing with current events on Wikipedia. Whenever something of this magnitude is about to happen, it often breaks in advance. They need the press to know about it in advance so they can set up the press conference, and of course the press runs their preliminary stories on it. Obviously, if this wasn't true, someone in as precarious a position as Paterson would be refuting it since it broke. But still, he hasn't officially rescinded his campaign yet. He still has filed the paperwork, so he's running until he's not running. --Muboshgu (talk) 19:59, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

This article is linked on the front page of http://news.google.com today. Americasroof (talk) 02:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Excuse my ignorance[edit]

why does it not cover the most recent "Govennor covering up allegeed spousal abuse of subordaniate " is this guy who is three weeks of SNL coverage really this far in the backwater of wikipedia?Weaponbb7 (talk) 00:38, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

More than a tenth of the article (i actually measured and it is 12K of a 99K article) is devoted to the case see: David Paterson#Domestic abuse and World Series tickets scandalsAmericasroof (talk) 02:13, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
The timeline for that section seems unduly long. Does so much detail need to be included in the section? It would appear to violate weight concerns. Arzel (talk) 02:34, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
My intentions is to spin it off. It developed when it looked like the governor might resign because of the events. I will try to spin it off this weekend and just leave a paragraph or two. There's a lot of other material in the article that is hopelessly out of date (including the budget stuff).Americasroof (talk) 04:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

SNL appearance produced a pretty decent "quote"[edit]

"Working in Albany is just like watching Saturday Night Live -- there are a lot of characters, it's funny for 10 minutes, and then you just want it to be *over*." 199.214.17.10 (talk) 17:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Hah. Considering the SNL controversy and the general mess that is Albany, this quote may merit inclusion. Maybe. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Governor end date. 2010 vs. 2011[edit]

Since Andrew Cuomo took office at 12:01 AM on 1/1/11, that means that Paterson was governor from 12:00 midnight to 12:01 am on 1/1/11. Peacewashlove (talk) 01:36, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

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