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[edit] An Oath Is Required
To clarify a mistake in the article, Art. II Sec. 1(8) requires that the President take an oath prior to entering office. The oath is as follows: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." So, Sen. Atchison was not President as he took no oath. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BenjaminDByrd (talk • contribs) August 15, 2006
[edit] Neutral point of view
On Wikipedia, article are SUPPOSED to maintain a neutral point of view. Therefore, this article is in terrible shape, as it is completely one-sided and completely against the possibility of Atchison being president. Could we PLEASE come up with a more neutral article, as there is CLEARLY evidence for both sides of the argument? Thank you 184.95.118.234 (talk) 19:30, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, all I see here are a bunch of people bickering like two year olds about something they neither witnessed nor can prove either way. It definitely should be noted that there is evidence for both sides, and this article IS very POV. While we Wikipedians are indeed supposed to present the truth, there is a lot of controversy on this subject as to what is actually the truth. Therefore, as neither side can be proven correct and both are widely accepted, according to Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, we should include both viewpoints in this article.Hawkrawkr (talk) 19:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- The overwhelming consensus among historians of the presidency is that he was never president, and Atchison himself clearly felt the claim of being president for one day is somewhat of a joke. Per WP:FRINGE, we should not put undue weight to try to afford an unmeritorious claim that he was indeed president. TJRC (talk) 21:13, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
[edit] Archive
Today there have been attempts to "clean up" this talk page by deleting old comments. That is, of course, a no-no, but would anyone object to my setting this talk page to auto-archive? I think archiving any comment section that has not been active in more than one year (or two years?) would be fine. The page isn't sufficiently trafficked to be any more aggressive than that. But it is starting to get cluttery. If there are no objections, I'll set up MiszaBot or something to archive, then add appropriate templates to allow the archives to be searched. TJRC (talk) 22:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. -Rrius (talk) 23:33, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- I'm confused. One of the things I tried to purge was a discussion of grammar of a sentence which is no longer in the article. It is not germane to Atchison at all. Why should something like that be archived? JoshNarins (talk) 19:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- This is a talk page, not an article page. The comments are germane to the article, not to the subject of the article. Talk pages are generally archived; old discussions are not deleted. TJRC (talk) 20:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
- Also, auto-archiving this article doesn't make a lot of sense, if history is any guide. It seems like all the debate will be about whether he was President for a day or not, and it doesn't seem to add anything to remove all the previously hashed out details of that discussion. JoshNarins (talk) 19:09, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- That's the point of archiving: to move old discussions off the page of active discussions, and place them where they still can be accessed. TJRC (talk) 20:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Per the above, I've set up archiving: [1]. Rather than set a high one-year period, I discovered that the archival bot can be configured to leave a specified number of threads, no matter how old they get. I've set it for 31-day archiving, but always keeping the most recent 4 threads, regardless of how old. This is the default/example,and seemed good enough to me. I don't object if anyone wants to tweak it (I may tweak it myself, say to 90 days, if the archival seems too aggressive). TJRC (talk) 02:12, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Line of Presidential Succession
I looked up the line of Presidential Succesion, and it seems that after VP and President, it is the Speaker of the House, therefore whoever the Speaker of the House was at the time was the "real" one day president. There are two ways thgis is untrue, but I am not sure of either: 1. The current Speaker of th eHouse was already gone, and 2. The was no Speaker at the time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.101.112 (talk) 20:45, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
