Talk:Aircraft deicing fluid

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Freezing point[edit]

Freezing point. I removed some defective information from this paragraph. Freezing points increase not decrease with dilution. As a result, the information provided (undiluted -30 C, diluted -55 C) could not be correct. Rklawton (talk) 17:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. I reverted the change and added a reference discussing the "eutectic" point of a mixture. Steve torquay (talk) 07:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source you added CLEARLY states that adding anti-freeze reduces the freezing point. This article, on the other hand, clearly and incorrectly stated that adding WATER reduces the freezing point. It doesn't. Rklawton (talk) 22:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I invite you to have a look at some commercial product data sheets, for example page 12 of the Dow UCAR Deicing Fluid Datasheet. You will see that at 100% concentration of the fluid, the freezing point is -28C. As you add water, the freezing point (surprisingly) decreases, reaching a minimum below -55C at a mixture of 70% fluid and 30% water. Adding yet more water then raises the freezing point, obviously reaching 0C at a mixture of 0% fluid and 100% water. Steve torquay (talk) 04:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My bad. Thanks for clarifying that. Rklawton (talk) 02:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe with most brands of fluids, there is a dilution range were the fluid will operate to its maximum efficiency depending on the ambient conditions. High glycol content fluids have a tendency to have lower freezing points. In particular I understand that Canada has great difficulty using type II and Type IV fluids and revert to using Type I. Now although the holdover time is poor on Type I because it has low viscosity and behaves like a Newtonian fluid the airport infrastructure is set up in many cases that the aircraft can spray and take-off almost immediately. I am aware that LOUT figures can be significantly different from the nominal values. Unfortunately not many de-icing providers in Europe will provide a LOUT test when the temperatures are below -25 degrees Celsius.Safewing (talk) 22:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IHS Shows : ISO 11074 Soil quality - Vocabulary - Second Edition, suggest should be ISO 11078 only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.38.188 (talk) 16:28, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ADF[edit]

Can I just ask where the abbreviation ADF comes from? I've never seen it other than where it means Automatic Direction Finder. 212.183.128.33 (talk) 15:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 March 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 21:32, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deicing fluid → Ground deicing of aircraft – Per WP:PRECISION. The current page name is inadequately precise, as the topic could be confused with fluids used for non-aviation purposes or with in-flight fluid deicing systems. Carguychris (talk) 14:26, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per nom. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 15:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, is clearer – Thjarkur (talk) 16:41, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Note: There is now another article with this title due to a bold split in June 2022. SilverLocust 💬 22:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]