Talk:Demographics of Bulgaria

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Well - the Roma communities in every single eastern European country are larger than what the census results say. However, our dear Boraczek makes a change only in the Bulgarian page. Anything you can quote in your defence that this is indeed not a personal crusade but an action in good faith? VMORO 20:56, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)~

If you correctly say that Roma community is bigger than the census says, then why did you delete the estimate? I am not obliged to edit all Wikipedia demographics articles at once, nor to defend from an unclear and weird accusation about the "personal crusade". BTW did you read Wikipedia:Assume good faith? But even if I embarked on some personal crusade (whatever that means), edits in articles should be explained with reference to their contents rather than by personal attacks and "eliminating personal crusades". Given this, unfortunately, I cannot take your comment here as a genuine explanation for your recent edit. Please specify your reasons. Boraczek 21:40, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Because those Roma who declared themselves Bulgarians, Turks or Vlachs did so because they speak Bulgarian, Turkish and Vlach as mother tongue. The fact that they have a Roma origin and a darker skin does not make them less Bulgarian, Turkish or Vlach.
There is a point in this. A trait of the Roma population is that they often do not have any national identity or that their ethnic Roma identity coexists with a wider, national identity. This is imndeed worth a mention in the article. Boraczek 09:37, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Don't talk to me about good faith, we both know what you are doing here. No such changes have been made in either of the Demographics pages of any eastern European country with a high percentage of Roma population, so this is easily qualified as a personal crusade against Greece and Bulgaria by User:Boraczek. VMORO 13:29, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)~
Hello, this is Boraczek on his personal crusade against Greece and Bulgaria ;-)
Performing my crusade, I would like to say that I am not a nationalist and I see ethnic diversity as a valuable heritage rather than as a shameful impurity, so I do not see adding information about the Roma population as anti-Bulgarian or anti-Greek. Boraczek 09:37, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

official bulgarian population census link[edit]

is there a link to an official site with the ethnic make-up of the population of Bulgaria Criztu 21:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

American is not "non-existant"[edit]

"American" as an ethnic identification is a valid choice, according to the US Census Bureau, denoting people in the US -- usually those whose families have been in the country for centuries -- who do not have enough information about their background (or do not identify closely enough with it) to identify themselves more specifically. I'm sure other countries accept the designation American as a valid choice. Misterdoe 16:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Where are the vlachs, aromanians and romanians from North???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mushatu (talkcontribs) 18:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

    In North - where they belong, Romania.


Is there anyone to correct the map? The Asenovgrad municipality is incorrectly listed as predominantly Turkish - which it is not VMORO 23:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Population Decline[edit]

I just don't understand why people doesn't want to have children in such a beautiful country, with low population density and mild climate. May be (just guess) the birth rate is not that low among the Bulgarians living outside the country? or perhaps most people left the country to seek jobs in the western Europe are primarily youth people? thus leaving old people behind at home and brought down the birth rate figure? as they gave birth to their children overseas and was not included in the Bulgarian statistics? someone who knows the reason, please be kind to say something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:24, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Population decline is happening because of the racism against Turks and muslims. After 1989, 700+ thousand of Turks immigrated to Turkey from Bulgaria. The immigration still continues. Same happened in 1910s, 1920s, 1930s and 1940s. In Izmir(pop: 4 million) and Istanbul(pop: 14 million), nearly every citizen has a background of Bulgaria, ex-Yugoslavia, Greece and Russia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:45, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Those figures are not true and do not explain the problem with demographics. Around 300 to 400 000 were expulsed, and that cannot explain the decline in the population in total. This is a shamefull period in Bulgarian history, but it is far from the true cause. The difference between 1989 and 2010 is in several millions of people. BloodIce (talk) 15:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Thoughts over the faith of Roma people[edit]

From rumors I heard, its hard to call Roma with specific religion as most Roma behave in their "own" way and tends not to be restricted by any law of any religion. Thus, Roma living in France who believe in catholic behave not much different than Roma living in Bulgarian whose faith is Islam as said by the paragraph. is this true or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:28, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Should it be noted that census figures are based on voluntary basis?[edit]

Regarding the latest census figures should it be noted that it was not mandatory to state ethnic group during the census? Basically latest figures on ethnic and religious distribution are based on those individuals who voluntarely chose to select an option, need to keep in mind that many probably chose to ingore and are likely registered as ethnic Bulgarian. Also latest changes in the census template removed several ethnic groups from the options list. Official figures on ethnic religious and laguage distribution should be taken in my opinion with a grain of salt. Hittit (talk) 10:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Bulgarian Turks, fascism and Exile[edit]

Bulgarian state, with the fascist policies applied against the Turks for centuries, Exiles experienced, religious prohibitions, and the world everything yapmışlardır.avrup national bans remain silent was unresponsive.

Migration of Turks from Bulgaria (1878-1994) :

1878-1912 Balkan Wars : 350.000

1923-1933 Razgrad evetns : 101.507

1934 Balkan pact : 91.181

1940 Craiva agreement : 21.353

1950 Korean war : 154.198

1952-1968 : 24

1969-1978 : 114.316

1979-1988 : 10

1989 : 1989 Bulgarian Turks in exile :321.000 ,150,000'n the 1990s he returned to Bulgaria.

1991-1992 : 50.000

1993-1994 : 70.000

Total Turks Exile Bulgaria : 1.016.391

This previous comment is done by an anonymous user, client of Turk Telecom. For a future reference, it should be noted that it is not sourced by any reference (even in Turkish). It is highly fictional, with the exception of 1985-1990. Personally, I can only laugh at the period 1952-1968: Is it 24 people who were targeted? Who are these? Korean war and Bulgarian turks... nonsense?BloodIce (talk) 21:52, 9 February 2015 (UTC)