Talk:Demographics of Kosovo

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Inclusion of references to Noel Malcolm's works

I am against inclusion of references to any of Noel Malcom's works. His works are clearly clouded by prejudice, and certainly not having neutral point of view. Additionaly, sentence that I have deleted from the article has little to do with demographics of Kosovo in given time period. Topic of Great migration of Serbs should be at that article, not here. Also, the sentence placement in that particular paragraph was a case of "weasel words", and as far as I know, Wikipedia is against it. RockyMM (talk) 14:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Noel Malcolm's book Kosovo: A short history was a bestseller in NY Times when it was published. It has one of the best bibliographies on the topic and Noel himself is a well respected historian and certainly unbiased. In this case you know nothing about him or his publications. I am sure you don't know that he has written extensively on the Albanian Myths as well.

What you are saying above are academically unacceptable beyond reason and dangerous at the same time. Don't besmirch his name if you don't like his arguments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newhost19 (talk • contribs) 04:16, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I see that you are a new user on Wikipedia, so I suggest that you read this and this. You can not have even a single sentence that is biased in Wikipedia, especialy on highly controversial topic such as this. Also, Noel Malcolm, as far as I know is sole respected historian that has published such unverified claims.

On the matter of popularity of a single book, Harry Potter was a bestseller too, but that does not mean that facts are presented in that book. The reason that Kosovo: A short history was so popular was that that book was what people where it was a bestseller wanted to read. Until you can provide another point of view on this matter, this sentence should not be placed there, at least not in this form. Check this guideline Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words.

Also, in history there are no evidences or facts, you should know that if you are an academic citizen. One can only make comments and claims based on data one has collected.RockyMM (talk) 13:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Harry Potter was a bestseller but it is classified as science fiction whereas Kosovo: A short history was a bestseller and it is classified as NON-FICTION. Your knowledge and/or suspicions about Malcolm's credentials are unproven, unverified and have nothing to do with the topic. I never used the word "facts" but evidence which are quite different from each other. Gathering new information and/or data and putting them together constitutes evidence not facts and yes you can make claims based on them. I'm not using 'weasel words', I'm simply restating what Malcolm's chapter 8 is all about. He is an historian, he demystifies myths. Simple as that. I agree to the last version you edited; it's fine for me. Newhost19 (talk) 13:45, 11 February 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.73.141 (talk)

Malcolm is a biased troll whose work is made primarily of sources from only one side. Here's a little reading...

• http://www.rastko.rs/kosovo/istorija/malkolm/index.html - he gets totally torn apart on how flawed he is
• http://www.bndlg.de/~wplarre/back203.htm

(LAz17 (talk) 23:10, 13 May 2009 (UTC)).

It is funny because both of those links contains massive bias. Emto (talk) 22:23, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Exclusion of references to Milos Milojevic's works

Miloš Milojević is extremely biased and unreliable source. He is consider "scientist" only among the Serbs, but for Bulgarians and others, he is primarily Greater Serbian ideologist. His works is not recognized by modern world science. He is not cited by serious scientists or historians on Kosovo Demographics subject.

The goal of Wikipedia is not to put into this article all possible claims about Kosovo Demographics. It is better to have several reliable sources then such a confusion. --Mladifilozof (talk) 00:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Immigration of Serbs and Kosovo's colonization after 1912

A good reference book would be from Miranda Vickers , "Between Serbs and Albanians". There was a lot of Serbian propaganda to increase the number of Serbs in Kosovo when Serbs forces invaded Kosovo in 1912. There was a huge wave of Kosovo ALbanians fleeing for Turkey or ALbania just after 1912 (massacres are recorded by Leon Trotsky as well). This was followed by a wave of Serbian and Montenegrin settlers. In 1920's a law was passed that ALbanians could not own more than 0.16 acres of land.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.63.205.168 (talk) 00:42, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Population statistics

There seems to be some unsupported alteration of these figures going on. When it finally settles down perhaps someone could apply (with references) data from the Kosovo government page at http://esk.rks-gov.net/eng/. Jan1naD ^{(talk • contrib)} 14:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Fake Sources

Does anyone ever check the sources of any of these Kosovo articles??? "Das Fürstenthum Serbien und Türkisch-Serbien, eine militärisch-geographische Skizze von Peter Kukolj, Major im k.k.Generalstabe, Wien 1871" This source is complete made up and fake. The use of biased sources like "Kosta Nikolić, Nikola Žutić, Momčilo Pavlović, Zorica Špadijer: Историја за трећи разред гимназије, Belgrade, 2002, pg. 63", etc. I dont have the time or interest to look thru all these articles and sources but some really needs to do an overhaul on kosovo articles, the quality of these articles is horrible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.6.84 (talk) 07:59, 17 October 2011 (UTC)