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Genetics[edit]

That data is very old (the reference weblink is even gone) and contains assumptions no longer supported by most researchers, ie the cro magnoids were of R1b ancestry. Haplogroup R1b has not shown up in any ancient European DNA samples over 5000 YBP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.48.172.35 (talk) 21:52, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


pyramid graph[edit]

Hi all, the pyramid graph was completely disrupted last time I visited. Can someone restore it. I have no idea how to do it, or in what edit it went wrong.... Thanks Arnoutf 22:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Somehow the pyramid looks fine in IE, but in Firefox it doesn't. The bars all have the same size. Could someone fix it? Mtcv 11:54, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Done. Same scale is used for bot female and male data. Goed zo? ActiveSelective 11:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for trying, but nope still does not work in Firefox all bars (of the same gender) have the same lenght. Arnoutf 15:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I've tried it again. Can you see the chart now, FireFoxer? I'll place the two last versions here, for future edit maybe... ActiveSelective 17:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

BRILLIANT it is fine now. Thanks a lot Arnoutf 17:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Dutch population pyramid
(in % of total population)
% Male Age Female %
0.36
 
85+
 
1.05
0.60
 
80-84
 
1.18
1.14
 
75-79
 
1.74
1.55
 
70-74
 
1.95
1.93
 
65-69
 
2.13
2.30
 
60-64
 
2.33
2.77
 
55-59
 
2.69
3.73
 
50-54
 
3.60
3.65
 
45-49
 
3.54
3.93
 
40-44
 
3.81
4.27
 
35-39
 
4.08
4.25
 
30-34
 
4.05
3.63
 
25-29
 
3.54
3.04
 
20-24
 
2.93
2.96
 
15-19
 
2.83
3.11
 
10-14
 
2.97
3.20
 
05-09
 
3.06
3.11
 
00-04
 
2.98
Data: International Data Base (2000)
Dutch population pyramid
(in % of total population)
% Male Age Female %
0.36     85+     1.05
0.60     80-84     1.18
1.14     75-79     1.74
1.55     70-74     1.95
1.93     65-69     2.13
2.30     60-64     2.33
2.77     55-59     2.69
3.73     50-54     3.60
3.65     45-49     3.54
3.93     40-44     3.81
4.27     35-39     4.08
4.25     30-34     4.05
3.63     25-29     3.54
3.04     20-24     2.93
2.96     15-19     2.83
3.11     10-14     2.97
3.20     05-09     3.06
3.11     00-04     2.98
Data: International Data Base (2000)

Birthrates, while below the maintenance level of 2.1, aren't going down. They have been stable for decades.

Link to CBS[edit]

It is not clear why CBS was called 'Dutch Census Bureau' in its link. Actually it is Centraal Bureau voor de Statistiek (in Dutch), or the Central Bureau of Statistics (direct translation), or Statistics Netherlands (as they call themselves in English). Here it is clear that strictly speaking all of them are not equal to 'Dutch Census Bureau'. Jeck2007 22:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

TFR Rates[edit]

"50.5% of the total births in 2011 were to parents of non-European origin, although they account for 2.15.% of the population in the 25-34 age group. For example, 38% of the births were ethnic Moroccan, although they were only 2.26% of the 25-34 age group. Respective figures were 3.27% and 3.0% for Turks. The TFR for Moroccans".. continues. Clearly impossible. Have also checked the referred documents.

According to Statistics Netherlands, for the year 2007, TFR for those who were born in Netherlands was 0.72[7] (0.65 in 2000). TFR of Moroccan immigrants was 5.87 (3.22 in 2000) and that of Turkish immigrants was 3.88 (2.18 in 2000). [8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Troya19 (talkcontribs) 01:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Density[edit]

Is it me or is this article obsessesed about density comparison.Thai provinces? -- Steenies

All the comparisons are just confusing; they convey no real information about Dutch demographics. I believe they should just be simplified down to a "# nations are more dense than the Netherlands" and continue on with relevant material. 128.253.240.145 13:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
You can make it more balanced by adding other sections.--Patrick 08:45, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
PRC is China.--Patrick 08:48, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
But what is TFR, mentioned in para starting 'In 2003...'? 131.170.90.4 (talk) 12:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Some could be moved to population density, the Netherlands is a somewhat arbitrary reference point in considering large, densely populated provinces throughout the world.--Patrick 12:05, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Infobox available[edit]

There is an infobox available for this article: Template:Infobox Country Demographics. Rubenescio (talk) 14:11, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I have added the infobox. Rubenescio (talk) 23:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

History[edit]

Dutch history is so rich but this article only talks about a high population and immigration . Maybe talk more about the golden century "VOC" and as far as I recall Rotterdam is still one of the largest harbors in the world also known as the gateway of Europe . Not to forget the Delta works in Sealand what is pretty high tech according to most Nations .

Oh well maybe not interested enough for Wiki .

Bas . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.102.0.87 (talk) 05:28, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

table overlap[edit]

The cities of Netherlands table/template is misplaced. Seems to cover a portion of other data or text. An editor with more technical knowledge than I needs to fix. Thanks. --S. Rich (talk) 04:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Migration figures?[edit]

I'm afraid I simply don't trust this information. The sections relating to migration are particularly weak when it comes to footnoting. For instance, the figure of "550,000" for emigration in the 1950s is contradicted by the figure of "342,800" (accompanied by detailed statistical breakdown) found at this site: http://dallasfed.org/research/events/2011/immigration_Maas.pdf

I'm sorry, but I have to place a citation needed tags here and a general warning.Schildewaert (talk) 07:22, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Hiving off migration information to separate articles?[edit]

I'd like to propose that the migration information here be hived off to two separate articles: "Dutch emigration" (perhaps subsumed into the current article on "Dutch diaspora") and "Dutch immigration" (or perhaps "Ethnic minorities in the Netherlands"). The subject of immigration to the Netherlands has attracted the interest of the world in recent years. And of course the subject of emigration from the Netherlands is interesting to the Dutch diaspora.

There is an interesting article on "immigration policy" on Dutch Wikipeda that could be the basis for this, but unfortunately much of it is unfootnoted so only part of it would be useful: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigratiebeleid_(Nederland) Schildewaert (talk) 07:39, 26 November 2011 (UTC)