Talk:Demotic Greek

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Rename "Demotic Greek"[edit]

This article should be renamed "Demotic Greek", per W:Use English. FilipeS (talk) 17:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

When?[edit]

When does this language exist? Is it ancient? Is it modern? Is it in between? Does it have a time range when it is applicable? Did someone forget something? Stevenmitchell (talk) 15:50, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Erm, did you read the article's lead? It's right there. This is the modern, vernacular version of the Greek language, and since 1976, the one in official use as well.Constantine 19:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

POV[edit]

The goal of this article should be to explain to an unversed reader (such as me) exactly what Demotic Greek is, and perhaps how it relates historically to other forms of Greek. Unfortunately, only the first paragraph is reliably informative. The rest of the article - a list of forms in Modern Greek that did NOT come from Demotic, and an uncited, suspiciously partisan-sounding biography - appears to be written by someone with the agenda of delegitimizing the reforms that led to the adoption of Demotic as the national language. I have applied NPOV and Weasel tags in the hope that someone more informed than I will come along to help fix this article. Angio (talk) 04:40, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Requested Move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved per discussion. GTBacchus(talk) 00:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)



DimotikiDemotic Greek — Per WP:EN. Angio (talk) 06:25, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose. Google [1] [2] shows more ghits unrelated to Wikipedia for dimotiki. Unless there's some evidence for the usage of the proposed name, the move should not proceed. Andrewa (talk) 11:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Comment ... yeah, and most of those hits are in Greek. WP:EN provides that English names should be used for foreign words wherever possible, and the English name for Dimotiki is Demotic Greek. For evidence, please see Encyclopedia Britannica et al. [3] Angio (talk) 17:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
      • Reply: Not true, but I do apologise for posting the wrong links... try [4] for English language only sites. Britannica does use Demotic Greek as their article name, but that's not relevant evidence at all, as they have completely different article title conventions to Wikipedia. And they give both names. Andrewa (talk) 02:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
        • The difference is that the Britaanica used foreign constructs as article titles more often than we do; but here they don't. (They do, of course, mention Français and langue d 'oïl in their article on French; is that a reason for us to use either of them as the title of French language?) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support looks like the correct English name; I've never seen "Demotiki" used, except in "Demotic Greek (Dimotiki)". —innotata 18:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support as English; what next? Attiki? Innotiki's point is one reason why raw google texts should be watched carefully. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move material to Standard Modern Greek[edit]

The differences between Demotic and Standard Modern Greek belong to the latter. This is about the development of a standard language from a vernacular.  Andreas  (T) 16:03, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Demotic Greek was written from left to right[edit]

The anonymous editor also confused Demotic Greek with Demotic (Egyptian), which was indeed written from right to left.  Andreas  (T) 21:40, 24 October 2014 (UTC)