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Miscellaneous[edit]

I've noted that the entry states that Bonnie Prince Charlie stayed at the Bell Inn in Sadler Gate in December 1745. This is incorrect, though possibly some of his men stayed there, as they did at the George Inn (just around the corner on Irongate) and at many of the houses and taverns in the town. The prince, stayed at the large and grand Exeter House on Full Street, which stood on the banks of the Derwent.

Destruction of City Centre - there is an appropriate remark in 2nd edition Pevsner on the clearance of the city centre for the inner ring road and bridges. (roughly 'as a road scheme it is claimed to be a triumph, but as townscape it is a disaster.' )I'll enter it when I find my copy again and check out.Linuxlad 17:26, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

When was the inner ring road built? Not mentioned in the piece. jamesgibbon 12:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Mid 70s I dimly recollect - Pevsner 2nd edition was published in 1978. Bob

I see - thanks. I first moved here (Derby) in 1989, and it was certainly here then! jamesgibbon 19:04, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes rather before then (though post-'72 I think, when I effectively left Derby) - the guy who who did the ring road for Derby Borough moved down and did Gloucester Dock for BWB - and was under contract to rejig Sharpness Dock when I first bumped into him in the early 90s. Linuxlad

I see that someone has totally removed all this section as POV - I find that surprising, especially the Pevsner quote, and hope that they will justify. Linuxlad 12:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Derby is fail man theres no culture or anything its all made up. we have 1 church ..all the clubs are sausage fests and about 40% of the population are over weight and the rest are gypsies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.217.10 (talk) 06:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Urban Area against Borough population[edit]

I was wondering why Derby has a bigger Borough population than Urban Area, I have always thought the Urban Area would have extended further than the Borough, i am probably wrong, but would like to know why I am nevertheless. --Wilde89 17:23, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to Media and railway section[edit]

I have made some small changes to the media section. If anyone objects, feel free to roll them back (I'm new to this :) )

I've also changed the article to reflect the fact that train manufacture continues in the town to some extent.

(1.8.06) The 'Media' section looks to have been changed again recently - BBC Radio Derby, is the BBC local alternative, aimed at the over 50s, broadcasting on 104.5 FM - I wouldn't personally agree with this; I know loads of people under this age who enjoy the features it broadcasts. (I'm 18 myself!)

All BBC local radio services are aimed primarily at the over 55s, although they take audience from across the age spectrum.

I can't vouch for the 55 'cut-off' line, but it is true that local BBC stations are aimed at a mature audience. The only time I'm even aware of a large youth audience paying attention to the broadcast is when the football's on. - Hayter 22:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


Deaf Community[edit]

I added a section to history on Derby's Deaf community - I'm not sure whetehr this is the best place for it or to start a new section. Derby is nationally famous for its large sign language using community and for as a cultural centre for the Deaf World. It's a big ommisin if it doesn't get a mention somehwere on the page. I could ask permission from Harold Mold whether perhaps a photograph or two from his Book "Derby Deaf" which chronicles Derby's Deaf Community might be used - in which case it might be worth generated a separate linked article with more detail? --Topmark 14:36, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

occasionally people erroneously edit this entry to say the Royal School for the Deaf (RSD)in Derby has closed. This due to confusion with the much publicised closure of the "Derby College for Deaf people"after the withdrawal of LSC funding.

RSD remained open and has now taken over residential post 16 prevision for Deaf students in Derby in partnership with Derby College. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.17.80.97 (talk) 11:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

History[edit]

I don't want to disturb the article without something worthwhile to include but before it is commiited to CD perhaps something could be researched about its function as a trading post, the function of the Roman Garrison, the carriage of lead from Wirksworth and its position relative to Rynield Street.

Also there was once a later castle though it is almost completely forgotten, which would explain the name of Castlefields. I would have expected it to be at the top of what is now Bradshaw Way, but what clues I've gained suggest it was on Cockpit Hill (now completely hidden under the Eagle Centre. see http://homepage.mac.com/philipdavis/English%20sites/769.html

Another item to explore is the origin of the Buck in the Park (also the name of a pub in Friargate) part of the Derby coat of arms and the emblem of Derby before the snail took over. A fine example is those on the spandrels of the Fiargate bridge, though they don't show up very well in the photograph Derby-handysidebridge.jpg

External link? http://www.derbyshireuk.net/derby/derby_history.html


I think it would be nice to mention Denby pottery within Derby's industry. Also Lara Croft was created in Derby and the actor 'Robert Lindsay' is from Derby—The preceding unsigned comment was added by GumballMod (talkcontribs).

Denby is some way outside Derby so would be more appropriately mentioned in the Derbyshire article. Similarly, Robert Lindsay is from Ilkeston, not Derby.--Michig 11:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Don't Denby also have a factory of somekind opposite the DRI?
That would be Royal Crown Derby I think. Chevin 18:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I don't think it would be worthwhile mentioning Denby pottery either. Not meaning to offend, but Denby is not IN Derby, it's IN Denby. Hence the name, DENBY pottery. (Aml96 (talk) 15:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC))

Waste Management[edit]

Suggest the page has an extra section about waste management and recycling in the city. Snowman 17:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


districts[edit]

I think the disrict links could do with a cleanup. Maybe changing to the official wards of the city and removing some unnecessary links Dommccas 01:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Wards[edit]

As above i have put a table on this page with the official wards and all areas contained within it. I'm currently working on Allestree which as a ward contains what was Markeaton Village. It doesn't seem theres a lot of interest in changing derby at the moment. However i was wondering what people would think if i merged markeaton and allestree with a view to having only 17 ward pages with all the information for any area's contained in the ward in the correesponding page. ie have Markeaton in Allestree, Little Chester in Darley Abbey etc. With most of these there should be no problem as the smaller articles such as Heatherton Village really offer no use as a seperate article. But markeaton has a long history and maybe deserves it's own article or a redirect to the right part of the allestree article. i'm going to go ahead and add Markeaton to Allestree. if anyone objects leave a message here or on my talk page User_talk:Dommccas or just change it. It would be good to get a consensus though. Just wondering what people's thoughts were on this.

cheers

14:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Sign your comments officially please, it's much easier. As for your idea, as a resident of the Allestree I can't see it being a big deal - we can always split it later if enough is gathered for seperate articles Philipwhiuk 23:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Origins[edit]

I would dispute the assertion that Derby, along with York, is one of the few places in England to have retained a name of Viking origin. All place names ending in 'by', of which there are many in the East Midlands, are Viking in origin. Ulysses54 07:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree completely, and think someone should change it... this article is at the minute full of both unnecessary and incorrect information. --88.106.127.58 (talk) 09:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Famous Derby Residents + Random[edit]

John Osbourne (Look Back In Anger, The Entertainer) lived in Derby with his wife... this being the setting of Look Back In Anger. Some the scenes from the film were also film in Derby. James Morrison (Singer) was 'discovered' in Derby if that's of any relevance. hmmmm there is probably plenty of things i've forgotten. I just think even though the city certainly lacks culture, it surely has more than just a football club. Plus there are more venues than just the Victoria Inn and more famous/popular bands having played there than Snow Patrol and The View.


Wikipedia is an encylopedia, not a list of who played were. Try to keep it short. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamwade (talkcontribs) 02:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Transport: Bus and Coach section — Red Arrow service description sounds like an advertisement?[edit]

I thought that the way the Red Arrow service is described as "successful" and "operating up to every 15 minutes, and up to early hours at weekends" sounded a little like advertising.

What do we think? Catalina 123 18:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, clearly advertising, have removed it. Didn't spot this before :O Philipwhiuk 23:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC) (moved Philipwhiuk 23:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC))

Ever heard of a Derbidian?[edit]

substantiation needed -->If you are from Derby you are refered to as a Derbidian (pronounced "dar-bid-ion") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chevin (talkcontribs) 13:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Derbeian - never heard of a Derbidian! Regnerps (talk) 17:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I've heard of a Derbinian! [[Andrew RACK]] (talk) 10:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Clean up[edit]

I've tackled some of the un-cited comments with a series of edits, here's hoping I haven't upset anyone. Some of it was plain advertising and some was just badly formatted. Thanks Philipwhiuk 23:23, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Shopping and Nightlife[edit]

This section is pretty terrible, the "Many cities have a thriving nightlife, Derby is no exception" bit especially. Also, the entirety of Derby isn't split into Sadler Gate and Westfield. Especially as I'm pretty damned sure that Sadler Gate is just the single street. I'm unsure of how to go about describing Derby properly though. :/ 88.106.6.69 (talk) 13:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

This section of the article is what would be very useful for me to complete my coursework, it would be good if more could be said about Derby and its shopping scene. Also, should there be a sentence about kebabs in an encyclopedia article about a city? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.8.76 (talk) 15:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

10 Derby Facts[edit]

10 Derby Facts

1. England's most central city and with a population of 250,000. 2. Derby is rated number 1 in England for visible exports per capita. 3. Derby is England's fastest growing city (by wealth creation GVA). 4. Home to England's first public park. 5. City centre has a UNESCO World Heritage Site. 6. Home to Toyota - Europe's largest inward investment. 7. The World's leading Aerospace city - Rolls Royce. 8. Derby has more listed buildings than the city of York. 9. Derby has a top 10 rated health service. 10. Derby is the UK's leading Rail Technology city.

http://www.urcs-online.co.uk/companies/company.asp?id=21 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.75.26 (talk) 19:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

"Fact" number 8- there appear to be 600+ listed buildings in Derby and 2,000+ listed buildings in York. The BBC Derby site states "Architecturally, Derby has more than 600 ‘listed’ buildings of historical or architectural importance and boasts more ghosts than York". York has 140... Ning-ning (talk) 22:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Bombing of RR and other places in WW1 & 2[edit]

I added a note to the historical section on the (comparatively light) bombing of Derby, especially Royce's, in WW1 & WW2. I've since come across a little book 'The bombing of Rolls-Royce at Derby in two World Wars' by Kirk, Felix & Bartnik (published by the RR Heritage Trust, 2002). On a quick read, the 'false factory' appears to have been part of a 'Starfish' site, which was in the fields down at Foremark apparently, but is only part of the story. Bob aka Linuxlad (talk) 10:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Derbyshire's County Town[edit]

According to the list of county towns Derby is shown as the county town of Derbyshre. The county town is in actual fact Matlock. 87.113.85.90 (talk) 11:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)19/02/2008

pronunciation[edit]

The first attempt to show pronunciation is of no use. Only IPA will serve. I assume that the point of the inadequate transcription is to show that the first vowel is like the vowel in "park" rather than a long schwa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 (talk) 13:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


Everything on Wikipedia to do with Derby is just wrong![edit]

I have lived in Derby all my life and now I will point out some things that are SO wrong it is unbelievable.

1. Mackworth Estate has NEVER been called "Little London" so that is wrong.

2. There is not a lively punk atmosphere, the Punx Picnic isn't famous and there is never any adverts for it.

3.WHO IN GODS NAME ARE ANTI PASTI, AND WHAT HITS DID THEY HAVE!?

4. Little Chester? LITTLE CHESTER? No. Never heard it, never been called that, not on any maps apart from Google. Stupid.

5. You can't just walk into Robert Ludlam Theatre. It is in a school, idiots!

6. "The Derby Ram" is never used at Derby County football matches, ever. It is "Steve Bloomer's Watching".

7. Derby, one of the inspirations for Central Park in New York? Sure.

8. How come Model Car collectors wouldn't get a mention, or jewellery collectors, but Keith Hamer, a Test Card Collector, does?

This article needs a serious cleanup. The people who put the information on have likely never been to Derby, just got the information off Google. Clean it up, residents of Derby! Koshoes (talk) Andrew R (talk) 10:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)14:26, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I generally agree with your sentiments but I am pretty sure that this article has been mostly composed by over enthusiastic Derby residents. The history section is far too long and seemingly namedrops anybody who has ever been to Derby. The lively punk atmosphere is quite a lie... The Victoria Inn is a very small underground scruffy place and, although Derby has little to offer musically compared to larger cities, there are larger/more attractive venues. Some other complaints:

1. Why does Chester Green need a grid reference?

2. How many translations of Anglo-Saxon/Old Norse do we need in order to establish Derby's origins?

3. STOP NAME DROPPING EVERY INDUSTRIALIST/NINETEENTH-CENTURY FIGURE!!!

4. I'm pretty sure every, or nearly every, other settlement in the UK has 'fairtrade status'... it does not make Derby special.

5.'The Revive Healthy Living Centre' is not a 'Landmark'.

6. Saying St. Alkmund's was 'magnificent' with a 'glorius' churchyard is POV and is ridiculusly over-the-top.

7.We do not need to know what airlines serve East Midlands Airport in the 'Derby' page... this should be covered in the East Midlands Airport page where I'm sure it already is.

8.The Casualties, UK Subs and Agnostic Front are not 'big names' these were not even 'big names' back in the day. More importantly in the before the mid-80s Derby hosted many actual 'big names' notably a Smiths gig for The Old Grey Whistle Test in The Assembley Rooms and The Sex Pistols being banned from Derby sparking off their being banned in other cities. (I'm not even sure if I would mention these two things... I just feel that the hardcore punk thing is very overstated).

Thanks Wilde1989


4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.95.214 (talk) 16:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Two comments on the above:[edit]

Little Chester is the area around Chester Green, a hamlet which became incorporated into Derby as it expanded. It should be possible to corroborate this. In the meantime I suggest a reference to the website Chester Green - (Little Chester) may be helpful.

I can't believe Koshoes has lived in the city for so long without hearing Derby County F.C. referred to as the Rams or seen their badge or the emblem on the facade of Pride Park Stadium. Chevin (talk) 16:40, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Notable People[edit]

I have been attempting (without much success so far) to remove some people from the "Notable People" list who are not actually from Derby, but have a variety of increasingly tenuous connections to it. This has been discussed a little on my talk page, but I wanted to see if we can broaden the debate a little. I would contend for example that Florence Nightingale should not be included, as the only real connection is her home at Lea Hurst near Cromford, visibly not part of Derby. There are others on the list who are not really from Derby at all and have no real connection with it, or even the County of Derbyshire, other than the most tenuous, such as Henry Cavendish, whose relatives chose to bury him in Derby but had no other connection and Erasmus Darwin, who was born in Notts and lived in Lichfield. At the same time, during a purge on what was once a much longer list in June 2009, people like Alan Bates, born and raised in Derby, were inexplicably removed. Sometimes these things are a matter of pride and therefore sensitive, but Wikipedia surely needs to be both accurate and true? Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 16:36, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I think these cases are certainly worthy of debate, and the project guidelines at WikiProject UK geography might be of some assistance in helping us sort it out. The guidelines advise including "A note on any notable births in the settlement" (no debate there) and "A note on any notable residents in the settlement". This is significant in that it allows the inclusion of non-native Derby residents such as Darwin. I have some sympathy for the case Jamesinderbyshire makes but I would be less strict than him in wanting to limit the criteria to those born in Derby. It is also suggested to us that we "Do not use a list format in this section. Please write this as prose". Of course, the advantage of changing to this approach is that it would give us more scope to spell out the exact nature of each individual's connection to Derby, whereas the current format lacks any such context. Jellyman (talk) 19:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I am also more for inclusion than James, I agree with jellyman that the way to go is slowly to pick them off from the list, inserting them in the body of the article and expand details a bit. Off2riorob (talk) 20:02, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
To expand on what I was saying before: I do think that the inclusion of some individuals is debatable at best. My tuppence worth on some of those mentioned:
Nightingale Fairly tenuous, never lived in Derby, but has been somewhat "adopted" due to local (ish) connections. Hard to justify inclusion really, despite statues and a pub named after her etc. If anyone is to be removed, she should probably be the first.
Cavendish Again, quite a stretch, as burial in Derby is his only firm connection. Like Nightingale, there are family links with the county, rather than Derby itself, and indirect memorials such as the former Henry Cavendish School. Another one I would be happy to lose, really. I should point out that the Cavendish area in Derby actually derives its name from the local Cavendish Hotel, which in turn is from the Cavendish family generally (Dukes of Devonshire etc.) rather than H.C. specifically.
Royce One justification given for his inclusion is an unsourced mention in his article of him living in Derby circa 1912. Maxwell Craven's Illustrated History of Derby reports that Royce lived outside the town at Quarndon, and then only briefly. Again, personal connection to Derby is limited; Rolls-Royce is undoubtedly important to Derby, and Royce undoubtedly important to Rolls-Royce, but I'm not convinced that makes Royce himself an important Derby individual. Another one relying too much on having a statue somewhere!
Darwin This is one case where I strongly support inclusion. Darwin was indeed born elsewhere and is strongly associated with Lichfield but to claim he had nothing to do with Derby is just wrong. He spent most of the last 20 years of his life living in the town, at Full Street. He was a member of the circle of intellectual and scientific elite in Derby at that time, such as Whitehurst, Wright (who painted him), Burdett, Pickford etc., a group strongly connected to the Lunar Society of which Darwin was a key member. Even more significantly, he founded the Derby Philosophical Society. Darwin is commemorated by a suite in the Assembly Rooms, a plaque near the sight of his Derby home and a likeness on Exeter Bridge. I think that makes for a pretty significant impact on the town for a non-native. Keep Erasmus!!
I know I've used memorials etc. as part of my Darwin argument but this is extra evidence, my main argument is based on his long residence in Derby and contribution to the community. Conversely, with some of the others, the memorials are just about all there is to tie them to the place! To put it another way: Queen Victoria visited Derby a few times, including one state visit when she knighted the mayor on the station platform; Victoria Street and Empress Road are Derby streets commemorating her; and there is a statue of her (originally at the Spot before moving to the DRI). Despite these tangential connections, would anyone argue for putting her on the list? No, didn't think so. Something to bear in mind when we consider some of our other so-called "Derbeians".... Jellyman (talk) 22:19, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Image sizes[edit]

Would anyone object if I were to reduce the image sizes down to their default size, they look scruffy as they are and are not in line with convention. I shall obviously keep all lead images and panoramas at a reasonable size. Mtaylor848 (talk) 19:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Population figures[edit]

A new edit goes back to the assertion (from a reference to the Business Link website that is factually incorrect) that Derby was the 2001 Census 18th-ranked Urban Area in the UK. This is not true, as a quick check on National Statistics website will confirm - Derby does not even rank in the top 25 largest Urban Areas in the UK. [1] (see table 3.1 on that PDF). The problem here is with definitions - "Urban Area" is a very specific National Statistics definition used to compare conurbation areas and is not the same as "City", or "Settlement", both of which are rather more vaguely defined. Compare with the Wikipedia article List of largest United Kingdom settlements by population, where Derby is listed (still incorrectly) as 22nd largest - this table conflates Urban Areas and Local Authority areas. This can be a minefield, but the new version we have at the top of the Derby article is incorrect and I will attempt to revise it, but would be interested to hear any other views. Thanks. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 11:21, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Since the article is about the City, the population figures and any ranking associated with them should be those of the city itself (2006 estimate 236,300).--Michig (talk) 12:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
What's your source for the City population 2006 estimate please Michig? I suspect that is actually the 2006 National Statistics "Unitary Authority (Derby UA)" estimate. In fact, if we are using NS UA estimates, we can use the 2008 ones which are out now [2] - in that table, Derby Unitary is now estimated at 239,200. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 12:41, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it was the Derby UA 2006 figure. I hadn't realised that later figures were available.--Michig (talk) 12:58, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, they just came out recently. I would personally be happy to cite Unitary Authority figure as the population of Derby and remove the incorrect ranking figure (which refers to a wrong source on Urban Area populations) and have a corrected ranking figure on Urban Areas - 2001. Ranking on Unitaries is pretty much wierd, as Unitaries don't bear much resemblance to largest actual places. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 13:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Derby (All Saints) Cathedral[edit]

Greetings. Can we now agree as to the true height of the tower ? (212' to the tip of the pinnacles). One has since obtained a copy of the buildings official guide... 212' be their reckoning. One can but assume past references to 172' +/- 1'/2' be the height to the parapet ? Whatever, even at 212' it still only ranks seventh among English Anglican Cathedral Towers. Sorry to burst any delusions to the contrary ! ROBERT TAGGART (talk) 13:44, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Indeed... that would appear to be the case. But, did you know... the guidebook (and one or two other books) speculate as to the original intentions... to cap the tower with either a lantern (as with Boston Stump) or even a spire. If only...!The Syth ! (talk) 09:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Bob Marley[edit]

Suspected vandalism. Some unknown person has added Bob Marley to the list of notable residents.I am unwilling to delete it out of hand, though if it were true I think I would have heard about it. I've enclosed it in comment tags for the time being. Can anyone confirm or refute it? Chevin (talk) 07:52, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Industrial Revolution - world's first waterpowered mill[edit]

Are there references, sources, for the statement, in Derby "world's first" waterpowered mill was build ? It interests me, because the German region Bergisches Land, were I work now, seems to belong to one of the first waterpowered industrial area's. Friedrich Engels was born there in 1820 and his family than already was wealthy from earnings with cotton mills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.130.45.70 (talk) 19:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Derby's water-powered silk mill was built between 1717-1721. cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_Industrial_Museum — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albatross89 (talkcontribs) 20:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the mill is Lombe's Mill, but Thomas Cotchet's (failed) mill of 1704 was earlier, using copies of Dutch throwing machines - see The Silk Industry of Cheshire and Darley, G. (2003), Factory (Objekt). London: Reaktion Books. ISBN 1-86189-155-5. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Raddy Majewski[edit]

Someone has added footballer Raddy Majewski to the list of notables. However I can't find any link to Derby. He was born and raised in Poland, only moving to England in 2009 and he's played for Nottingham Forest ever since! Even if he currently lives in Derby (does anyone know if this is the case?), I'm not sure this short period of residence would allow him to be classed as a 'notable' for the city. I'm loathe to delete him arbitarily but he was added by a non-logged-in user so I can't contact them to ask for justification. Can anyone provide any reason not to remove him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neiltonks (talkcontribs) 12:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

That pretty much encapsulates the issues of 'notable people' section: the link has to be notable as well as the person. A quick Google search just turned up stories about Majewski playing against Derby. I'm in favour of removing this entry. Nev1 (talk) 12:18, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I've removed him (he was added by an ip, and I moved him to the correct alpha order) Ning-ning (talk) 18:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Georgia Groome[edit]

Is Georgia Groome a Derby person? Chevin (talk) 04:58, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

An industrial boom?[edit]

I query the idea that an industrial boom began in Derby when Rolls-Royce opened. . . . in the town in 1907. Derby had been an industrial town since the days of James Fox in the late eighteenth century. Chevin (talk) 17:20, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Move?[edit]

Why does Derby direct here, and not to the disambiguation page? There are a lot of things called Derby, doesn't make sense to me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.65.196.20 (talk) 18:35, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

According to http://stats.grok.se/ in the last 90 days (since 22 August)
  • "Derby" has been viewed 70109 times (typically 700 per day, with a peak of 1135 on the day of the Manchester derby)
  • "Derby (disambiguation)" has been viewed only 4269 times (typically 40 per day, with a peak of 175 on the day of the Manchester derby).
It suggests that most people who viewed "Derby" found what they were looking for. -- Dr Greg  talk  20:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Or gave up. Srnec (talk) 02:29, 12 December 2013 (UTC)