Talk:Differentiation of trigonometric functions

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Inverses[edit]

There should probably also be the inverse trig functions because I can't find another page that has proofs for them. --Bobianite (talk) 01:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering, since all the proofs for inverse trig functions are almost identical (as I am finding out while I do them), does anyone have a good way to put all of them into one single generalized proof? I tried creating a generalized explanation, but what about a proof? --Bobianite (talk) 01:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The proofs are not identical as far as I can tell. Usually you prove the derivatives for the trig functions and then use those results, with implicit differentiation, to compute the derivatives of the inverse trig functions. Paul Laroque (talk) 01:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Nowhere on the page are the derivatives of arcsec, arccsc, or arccot discussed, proved, or indeed, given. 173.71.106.60 (talk) 18:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Other things[edit]

I think the "a" needs to be included, as in the derivative of cos(ax) is -asin(ax)... right? Well yeah, the "a"s need to be included, to help people like me (Bonzai273 (talk) 16:22, 25 May 2008 (UTC))


In the proof of derivative of sine function, the first principle should be sin'(x)= lim(h->0) (sin(x+h)-sin(x))/h. But it is written cosine something multiplied to sine something. I don't understand how it comes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.160.173.54 (talk) 03:00, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Unproven trigonometric limits[edit]

The proofs omit proofs that \lim_{\theta\rightarrow0}\frac{\sin\theta}{\theta}=1 and \lim_{\theta\rightarrow0}\frac{1-\cos\theta}{\theta}=0. Are they posted anywhere on Wikipedia? --Moly 18:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

They are easily obtained by looking at the Taylor series for  \cos\theta and  \sin\theta. Paul Laroque (talk) 01:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of image leaves article nonsensical[edit]

Read through this article, you'll see that a section refers to an image that is no longer there.76.114.70.10 (talk) 19:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Proof of derivative of the sine cosine function[edit]

I cannot understand how you(?) got to the last identity in the article, the one with the multiplication of the two limits. you spend a lot of time proving the sin(x)/x limit, but no time at all explaining the more complicated part.

I would love to know what's going on there.

ManuRoitman (talk) 14:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Inverse Trig Functions Omit Proof of Differentiability[edit]

Unless I'm missing something, the derivation for the derivatives of inverse trig formulas is incomplete. Working with the arcsine function, for example, the proof shows that if {d \over dx} \arcsin x exists, it must equal  \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}. Of course the arcsine function is differentiable, but there are plenty of other right inverses for sine on [-1,1] which are not even continuous, let alone differentiable, and nothing in the argument excludes these cases so long as cosine is always positive in the range of arcsine. Of course it follows very easily from the inverse function theorem that for any point p in (-π/2,π/2) sine has a differentiable inverse on a neighborhood of p, which must then be continuous and hence differs from arcsine by a constant (easily proven with LUB property), which of course wouldn't make a difference for differentiability. Hence arcsine is differentiable on (-π/2,π/2) and so the formula given is correct. The somewhat more advanced implicit function theorem can also be used to roughly the same effect as the inverse function theorem. The proof is important and not difficult, but it's certainly above the level intended for the article, so instead of adding it, I wonder if anyone can give a more elementary proof that arcsine is differentiable or a way to mention the issue without making it too complicated. 129.15.139.200 (talk) 22:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Proofs of derivative of the sine and cosine functions - simplify explanation for sine function proof[edit]

I notice that for the proof for the limit of sin(θ)/θ as θ → 0, the variable u is introduced to denote the "chosen unit of measurement". It is not at all clear why this is done. It complicates the explanation and, as it turns out, the u's drop out once you get to the triple inequality stage of the proof. Therefore, I suggest that the references to u be dropped as they are not needed for the proof and may only confuse the reader. I will do the amendments, but will await any feedback before doing so. --Chewings72 (talk) 05:55, 22 April 2012 (UTC)