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I cleaned up the text in terms of grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc. I rewrote some of the sentences and hope that I have kept the content consistent with the original authors intent. --BwB (talk) 18:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This should be merged with Mind uploading. I really can't see that there's an article's worth to be said on this specific topic. ciphergoth (talk) 05:51, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What the fuck[edit]

is this article? It's complete rubbish.

Response: In my opinion the article is worthwhile. There is interesting information in here about a popular subject, with some tidying up it could be a very good page. When conversation turns toward future technologies, digital immortality and ubiquitous capture are often considered as a possibility. If someone decides to look it up on Wikipedia there should be something to find. It is a critical part of thinking about The Singularity. The article could be improved, but is worthy of being represented on Wikipedia. Mark it as controversial, and comment that it needs bolstering, but please let us improve the article rather than delete it.

Does "what the fuck" have any published source to cite that calls the subject of the article "complete rubbish"? Otherwise his opinion is unreliable, OR, Non neutral, Unsourced, and a the most common violation of the foundational rules of wikipedia that is gotten away with which causes the loss of authoritative editors, and the degeneration of Wikipedia. Unpublished Challenges based on any editor on the planet's opinion should not be acceptable challenges in terms of the Wikipedia rule of "edits that are challenged or likely to be".

Separation from mind uploading[edit]

There is a distinction between mind uploading and digital immortality. The difference is about consciousness in each situation. In mind uploading the individual, once uploaded, has a consciousness that exists in the 'machine' - their sense of self persits. In digital immortality, this may not be the case - the avatar created might be merely an approximation of the individual, something like a 'non-player character' that mimics the history of their behavior.

Commercially available[edit]

the article itself may be "complete rubbish" or not. but the idea itself is real. see here. --Wongba (talk) 18:30, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rubbish or not you should credit Frederik Pohl[edit]

Frederik Pohl wrote a Sci-Fi Gateway Trilogy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heechee) in which digital immortality plays an extremely important role. He called it "vastening" (i.e. to be made vast) and there are a host of plot lines that use this device, including the principal protagonist (Robinette Broadhead) This has been addressed in many sci-fi novels and short stories, but Pohl treatment goes deeper and was written at the start of the computer revolution.

If I recall, he actually has snippets of code (basic!) that is inserted in the prose that shows the 'individuals' in the massive supercomputers thinking (as lines of code in programs).

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