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CDL / DLF[edit]

You don't mention the California Digital Library, the Online Archive of California, nor the Digital Library Federation!!! -- WEAK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.107.130.198 (talk) 03:46, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

CDL was/is a leader in the field, but lets face it, the text of this page is weiged down by every paragraph being padded by and authors 'pet' DL project, making it unreadable.

These should all be moved to a seperate section or page.

StephenDeGabrielle (talk) 20:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Advantages[edit]

Someone should add that another advantage of digital library books is that they readily can translated from one langauge to another using the appropriate software.

-Bill-

Febuary 02, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.201.225 (talk) 01:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so. Few, if any, offer such a service. Their is little evidence that users are making use of translation tools with digital collections. So adding such would be speculation, rather than appropriate content. (unless you can cite a peer reviewed study supporting the assertion) StephenDeGabrielle (talk) 00:19, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know of any data that supports the contention that operating a digital library is less expensive than operating a traditional library. While I agree that there are many advantages to digital libraries over print ones, the proposition that cost is one of them is pure opinion and not supported by either anecdotal or qualitative research from the likes of Outsell and others. Costs that are lower (floor space, circulation infrastructure, etc.) are easily offset by costs that are higher (software, programming, hardware, etc.). Rog Librarian (talk) 21:58, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Roger

Selection Criteria[edit]

Selection Criteria needs to be moved into it's own page. StephenDeGabrielle (talk) 23:19, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

refactored Intellectual Property and Art Digitization to it's own page[edit]

But it has no references... StephenDeGabrielle (talk) 23:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Please don't add your 'pet' project/DL/Archive/Gateway or link to google books[edit]

this article has way too many of this sort of link, most of which are not notable.

Eg; http://digital.wustl.edu/index.html is not appropriate to add as it is not a source of further information about digital libraries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spdegabrielle (talkcontribs) 10:10, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Style[edit]

I've rated this article as C-class. I think the style in some parts of the article should be written to be more informative. -download | sign! 18:48, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Merge from Virtual information services[edit]

Virtual information services seems to be an outdated term for digital library and most of the information in that article pertains to digital libraries so I propose merging any relevant information from there to here. Killian441 (talk) 18:16, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Automatic writing[edit]

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Style, Citations and Challenges[edit]

In addition to some minor revisions, I am going to try to add some further citations for previous content on this page. Many things are uncited including direct quotes. I am also hoping to edit the Challenges section in an attempt to bring it closer to Wikipedia’s standards. I would especially like to expand on the section of Digital Copyright and discuss the movement to exempt digital libraries from copyright laws. Please let me know if you have any suggestions! Kbel32 (talk) 03:39, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

citations[edit]

Many citations are to primary sources, or the information claimed is not in the citation, or there is a misleading citation (the claim about the first use of the term is cited to the actual document, rather than to a document about the first use of the term) etc. Basically, the entire referencing of this article is fucxed up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.204.77.50 (talk) 14:31, 7 March 2012 (UTC)


Attempted to correct this issue, by rewording some of the introduction and definition of digital libraries, using a textbook from a graduate level library science course as a reference and guideline. Linked to a Google Books page highlighting the specific passage I used to develop the definition. [1] PatienceFortitude (talk) 21:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC) PatienceFortitude

Scope broader or narrower?[edit]

I broadened the scope of this article to "electronic" because of the first sentence description: "(as opposed to print, microform, or other media)." However, if the intent was a narrower scope of only accessible via computers, then my changes should be reverted and the first sentence should read: A digital library is a library in which collections are stored in digital data formats only accessible via computers. In the narrower scope, electronic library shouldn't redirect to here, but instead should be a disambiguation page. Oicumayberight (talk) 07:02, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

First Use of Phrase "Digital Library"[edit]

the following is from the original article, the citation was problematic. I'm stashing it here for follow-up, in case anyone wants to assist with confirming the history of the term Digital Library.

The first use of the term digital library in print may have been in a 1988 report to the Corporation for National Research Initiatives[2][not in citation given] 15:47, 15 February 2014 (UTC)PatienceFortitude

Requested move 03 August 2013[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 16:57, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


Digital libraryElectronic library – This is broader in scope than digital media or digitized content Oicumayberight (talk) 00:10, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Oppose – from looking at the article, I don't see why a title with broader scope would be a good thing. Dicklyon (talk) 06:14, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose You're technically right, but as a professional librarian, I can attest that "digital library" is a very common phrase in our literature; if I ever came across a reference to an "electronic library," I'd expect it to be dated. Compare to Digital Public Library of America or World Digital Library. For a sampling of usage in professional literature, see Google Scholar. Over a million hits for "digital library" compared to 388,000 for "electronic library," including false positives such as "electronic library resources" and, sure enough, dated references from the 90s. It's a similar story in a Books search (370,000 to 128,000) This is a clear WP:COMMONNAME. --BDD (talk) 21:48, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose – You can technically make a distinction between digital and electronic libraries, but digital libraries are clearly the dominant form of electronic libraries (the alternative being analog electronic libraries). If there is enough information on non-digital libraries, it should be in its own article (perhaps becoming the parent at Electronic library). Otherwise, mention in the history section this article doesn't have would suffice.  —Sowlos  12:08, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Can you expand on non-digital electronic libraries orgive an example? I believe the type of projects the article deals with are most commonly called DL these days. trespassers william (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Comment I don't see any coverage of non-digital electronic libraries in this article, there's no video library section or tape library section, etc -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:17, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
I figured it could go either way, more specific or more broad. Since nobody responded to my suggestion to go either way, I figured a page move request would get someone's attention. Yes, there isn't anything said in the article about analog electronic media. That doesn't mean there won't be if the scope of the article is broadened by the title. And since there's no article for the broader term "electronic library" which has been redirected here for 8 years, I figured it may as well mean what the redirect says it means.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Oicumayberight (talkcontribs) 05:48, 3 August 2013‎ (UTC)
You could always write a new article on the broader topic... -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 06:52, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm not against having separate articles. But I'm not going to invest time in writing it. I have too many other projects on my plate within and apart from wikipedia. There wouldn't be much said in the broader article that wasn't said here. It's the same concept only enhanced by digital technologies. Having it oversimplified to digital just excludes the electronic media exceptions that haven't been digitized, as if they've never existed. It probably only needs a disambiguation page to cover those exceptions, but the way the MOS:DAB has been fundamentally over-applied lately, the dab page wouldn't be allowed to cover the exceptions thoroughly. Oicumayberight (talk) 07:09, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm still a little vague on the concept. Doesn't "Library" describe a method of organizing items to be pulled? Isn't pulling always discrete, or digital? trespassers william (talk) 01:06, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
That would be more specifically a "Library catalog". The library is the collection of reading and viewing material. The material isn't always digital media or computer data. Oicumayberight (talk) 07:26, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I strongly suspect, as a librarian, that there isn't sufficient sourcing material out there for a good article on non-digital electronic libraries. As I mentioned above, most references to electronic libraries in literature are simply older references to what we now call digital libraries. But I suppose I'd be impressed if you could pull it off. --BDD (talk) 16:37, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
  1. ^ [1] "Witten, I. H., Bainbridge, D., & Nichols, D. M. (2010). How to build a digital library. Amsterdam: Morgan Kaufmann Publishers."
  2. ^ Kahn, R. E., & Cerf, V. G. (1988). The Digital Library Project Volume I: The World of Knowbots, (DRAFT): An Open Architecture For a Digital Library System and a Plan For Its Development. Reston, VA: Corporation for National Research Initiatives.