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External links[edit]

I just removed an external link as useless. My reasoning is, per WP:ELNO, that the link "does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article." I see no reason why a very short webpage with two-sentence definitions should be appended to this much longer and more thorough article. Binksternet (talk) 13:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

gamimena paidia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.228.131.82 (talk) 13:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

C or K?[edit]

Is it "disk jockey" or "disc jockey"? And why? Thanks, Maikel (talk) 13:39, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I dispute the statement about it "originally" being spelled "disk jockey" and then changing because of compact discs. As far as I'm concerned, it has always been spelled "disc jockey".
There may be differences in American vs. British, Canadian, etc., spellings. Also I do agree that the computer "floppy disk" was normally spelled with a k, while the cd-rom disc with a c. But I don't agree that the same thing is true with phonograph records. IamNotU (talk) 22:22, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
The Wikipedia Article spells with a c (Disc) so who knows? Billyshoe99 (talk) 15:58, 7 March 2010 (UTC)Billyshoe99Billyshoe99 (talk) 15:58, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
This should be flagged as not reflecting world view.
'Disc' is the UK spelling, 'Disk' was the US spelling. The 'disc' in CD was spelled that way because the medium was a co-production between Sony (Japanese) and Philips (European), both of whom spell it that way. Although I have no personal knowledge of this, I believe the US has now adopted 'Disc' for music media and 'Disk' for computer media, leading to some confusion over how to spell the word on the Hi-MD format, which uses the same media for both. 80.229.236.30 (talk) 14:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

This article seems old[edit]

The mobile DJs I've seen just have a laptop and music gear. Haven't seen discs for 5+ years. What do you think? Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 17:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I know of several who still use CDs, and some who lug heavy crates of vinyl. Not everybody sees the need to stay current with technology, especially if what they have is working for them. Binksternet (talk) 17:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

HIGHEST AWARDED DISC JOCKEY[edit]

Hi Everyone

I am trying to find out who ias the world highest awarded D.J He/She must be voted on by the entertainment industry in general not by a company.. He/She is NOT a radio Disc Jockey and must be either a club or function D.J.

Has your country got awards for D.J's ( Not Radio ) Here is Australia we have the Entertainer of the Year Awards where votes are taken from every area of the Industry ( Entertainment Industry )

I would love you to email me please prior to the end of Febuary

At aussiemagic2007@hotmail.com with as much info as you can


Regards

paul J. Tyler —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.105.109.53 (talk) 04:42, 10 February 2010 (UTC) deadmau5 is the sickes dj in the world —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.208.173.198 (talk) 15:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


This website I think provides the best metrics for DJ popularity: https://topdeejays.com/ I wonder it's appropriate to include this in the article, and if so how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HungryJoeBell (talkcontribs) 22:02, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Add a 2000s subselection[edit]

With the changes in technology in the 2000s, the article could be improved by adding a "2000s" subsection.69.181.118.225 (talk) 01:54, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Need help to improve my article[edit]

Hello, I just made article about clubbing subculture. In order to attract some new editors, I was a bit violent last night in editing this one, sorry. I would be glad if you can somehow link my article Clubbing here, and help me improve mine. --Nemanjanede (talk) 14:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Cite your sources and you'll have more luck bringing something about clubbing to this article. If you're short on reliable ones, try the books Last night a dj saved my life: the history of the disc jockey, Subcultures: cultural histories and social practice, Beyond subculture: pop, youth and identity in a postcolonial world, Digital diversions: youth culture in the age of multimedia and Music and youth culture. Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 14:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Narrow focus[edit]

This article has almost no mention of the radio history of DJs. No mention of their hit-making power in the '50s and '60s via airplay. And no mention of Wolfman Jack? I mean, I know it's only Wikipedia but come on! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.106.209.61 (talk) 22:07, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

That's true. Radio station DJ's were around long before club DJs. I'll see if I can dig up some relevant historical material to add. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:35, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I did add some material to the 50s section, but I notice the article was originally written to favor club DJs over radio DJs. That's understandable since modern radio DJs are all but extinct and many people only know of club DJs. Maybe a solution is two separate sections giving a short history of each? - LuckyLouie (talk) 21:42, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Agreed, they are two different careers (although I do know of at least one radio engineer who used radio equipment (carts) when he moonlighted as a club DJ in the early '70s, and surely there were others). Thanks for what historical info there is on radio DJs, but as the article stands now, it would seem that the job died out in 1960. The careers of many then-famous "personality" DJs peaked into the late '60s (when FM album formats took hold, still featuring DJs of a different sort). The decline of DJs on U.S. radio actually came around 1980 (only my impression), when talk radio began to take over AM airwaves. There is so much material to be added, that this really should be TWO different articles. But how to differentiate their titles? Club Disk Jockey vs. Radio Disk Jockey? Suggestions? Eplater (talk) 09:07, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

At this date their is a fair amount of history on Radio DJs.(my thoughts from just reading. AS I look at both article and the talk page- radio DJ versus Club DJ- enough material for some day two separate articles. I came to page with interest in FCC and government involvement with broadcast radio and regulations. Radio stations must obtain and renew license from the FCC (broadcast radio- I expect an internet only radion station might be exempt). But what of the radion station employees. Do (did?) the DJ ever have to get a license from the FCC? If this has changed over time when by year and why? Wfoj2 (talk) 22:12, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I think a separate article with a title like "Radio disc jockey" might be warranted. And to answer your question, at one time, radio DJ's in the US who operated any of the transmission equipment (this could include a DJ from a small local station turning off the transmitter on Sunday night) had to have a third class General radiotelephone operator license, as did taxi, police and fire dispatchers. - LuckyLouie (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

airforce dj[edit]

do we really need the airforce to illustrate what is a DJ ? personnaly i am shocked american army invaded enought territory(vietnam,afghanistan,irak) so i suggest that wikipedia, as a "neutral" ressource base, should keep "at least" the arts away from the american army influence...

i think the intention with this image was to provide a copyright free ressource but i don't agree with that choice..

i'd be looking for a replacement image soon or reverse this change.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.240.127.76 (talk) 12:47, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Images created by the US Government are copyright free, and since the DJ is actually a civilian entertainer and there's nothing in the photo that identifies it as military, my opinion is that it's a benefit to this article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:51, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
I like the photo and I think it is good for the article. No need to change it. Binksternet (talk) 16:06, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, really. I think 81.240.127.76 is overreacting a bit. Just because German-based DJ Blaze happened to get his picture taken by an Air Force photographer doesn't mean this article has come under "american army influence." - LuckyLouie (talk) 18:16, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
sorry LuckyLouie and Binksternet, but your arguments did not convinced me either and i replaced the armylicensed picture with another copyright free image of another 'civilian' DJ, that i found in another article, don't take it personally, that's simply the way wikipedia is intended to work, isn't it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 09:24, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia is "intended to work" by consensus. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
guys you mst be kidding right? everytime i remove this military referenced image (see original is here: http://www.spangdahlem.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/090925-F-1239W-510.jpg) you always find a new reason to add it again.. you have to explain why this so called dj blaze is SO important in Dj history and what exactly you intend by "global scope" ... what are your criteria? explain please.. my guess is you intensionally want to add a reference to us military, one way or another (edit history proves your intentionality at least). this is not what can be call consensus yet.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 18:38, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't understand how the image of a German civilian DJ who happened to be an entertainer for an Air Force base event is "a reference to the U.S. military" and why this is not appropriate for the article. As far as I know, Wikipedia has no policy that discourages use of images taken by U.S. Government employees. Do you have any reasonable explanation for your repeated removal of the image and vandalism of the Wikimedia file info? - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:22, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
this is preposterous! first of all i never commited any act of vandalism. i just suggested illustration to enhance the article, so quite the opposite,isn't it? you did not explain why dj blaze(i have nothing against him) is so crucial in dj history(in your eyes). in my case i just proposed important figure of musical history and dj scene (dj spooky and jeff mills) ... so if your intention is to propose 'amateur' dj or less famous guys, i can understand that, cause it's part of the story, and i'm sure we can find a copyright free image of a less famous dj wich is not related to a party in an airforce base, because in my opinion this kind of party doesn't have a primary link with DJ history, or maybe you can explain me how you relate an airforce ball to dj history? and why is dj blaze so important? please answer for the community here.. i mean if editing an article to suggest brillant figure that illustrate the subject of an article is an act of vandalism, then wikipedia is no more what it says it is: a free encyclopedia.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 20:29, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Maybe it's just me, but I'm having trouble following your explanation. Can you clarify why photos taken by Air Force photographers are not appropriate for this particular article and must be removed? I could understand if it showed someone dressed in cammo and holding a rifle or there was a US flag in the photo. But no, all this particluar photo shows is a German civilian named DJ Blaze on a neutral grey background. Maybe you have something against Germans?- LuckyLouie (talk) 20:58, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────The photo in question is perfectly okay to use. It shows the showmanship of the DJ. It is appropriate for the top of the article where a general DJ photo should go, rather than a photo of a specific 'star' DJ. The photo puts DJ Blaze facing into the article from the right hand side which is ideal for a top photo. On the other hand, the DJ Spooky photo has Spooky facing to the right which means the photo is best placed on the left border. Binksternet (talk) 23:11, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

So true. DJ Blaze ain't invading no countries or representin' US imperialism. He's merely shown rockin' his turntables on a neutral gray background spreading peace and tolerance and pumpin' out the tunes for his audience regardless of race, color, creed or nationality. :) - LuckyLouie (talk) 23:44, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
let's make it clear (again) i have nothing against dj blaze or German citizens.. the issue here is that the top image of the article about disc jockey is doing a reference to a 'party' in a us airforce base ( http://www.spangdahlem.af.mil )... the dj 'culture' is all about sharing good moment, dancing, having fun, listening music with friends, spreading peace and tolerance (as LuckyLouie mentioned it), and those values are not primarily associated with the US Air force values( http://www.airforce.com/learn-about/our-values/ ).. there is obviously other link and reference that should come first to illustrate this article. again this is my opinion i feel concerned by the subject so let's find a consensus. why do you insist so much to publish this particular image ? there is no discussion here since you never answer to my simple questions.. so it seems to me that your only concern is to promote the values of the us air force through wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 11:29, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't think anyone other than yourself thinks that the photo of DJ Blaze (no guns, no planes, no insignias, no flags, no uniforms, etc. it's just a DJ on a grey background) is "promoting the values of the U.S. Air Force". You are alone in that rather strange belief. The picture is perfectly acceptable for use here. That it's less dark and blurry than the other DJ pictures makes it highly suitable for a featured position. - LuckyLouie (talk) 12:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
dear LuckyLouie, the problem is you arbitrary choosed this image and you seem to think that you are the only one able to decide what is good or not here. so you unilaterally keep publishing this image again and again.. so again i'm asking: why do you keep publishing this image ? my concern is not the image itself, its color background, or the dj, or the german citizen, the internet is full of image of this kind i could find 20 similar in 5 minutes . my concern comes from the image title and the meta, that are a clear reference to an event occuring in a us air force base. so when you edit the article you see clearly the first line is mentionning the air force ( "Club Eifel's DJ Blaze performing at the 2009 Air Force Ball."). Again i don't see other explanation for publishing this particular image other than promoting an image from the us air force in an article concerning an entertainment practice. so this make me think that it's an infiltration of the us air force values in a cultural article. this lacks neutrality in my opinion, so i propose to remove or replace this image,since modifying the meta would not be correct.

comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC).

I still don't get it. How does the caption mentioning the DJ is performing at an Air Force ball promote "us air force values"???? "Infiltration"??? How does it violate WP:NPOV???- LuckyLouie (talk) 14:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
i allready answered that.. we are not discussing around a military related article, so why do you keep publishing a us air force image of a DJ ? now please answer this: why another picture featuring a dj at work(not related to any military event) is not suitable in your eyes? and why do you feel offensed(calling vandalism my intervention) when i simply find replacement image which are fair enough suitable . i've proposed different version from other articles and wikimedia base which you apparently can't help removing... how to find a consensus in this case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 14:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
No one but yourself shares your view that the image is unsuitable. The best thing you could do at this point is to gain some support for your views from other, more established editors. The NPOV Noticeboard is one of many places you could try. In the meantime, I've requested page protection for the article to prevent further edit warring on your part. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:04, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
this is still not an answer.. i am not a vandal, never pushed any offensive image, only tried to enhance the content of an article, this should not be an offense..

->why another picture of a dj at work would not make it? (answer is awaited) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 15:11, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Your answer has been given, several times: the only one who feels the DJ Blaze image must be removed and replaced with "another picture of a dj at work" is yourself. Your theory that the DJ Blaze picture "promotes US Air Force values" (or other nonsense) is neither understood nor shared by established editors who frequent this page. And since no one but yourself objects to the picture, there's no good reason to remove it. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:32, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
apart from you LuckyLouie,(who uploaded this image on 2nd of October) the other "established editors who frequent this page" i see is Binksternet, who apparently (following his logged intervention) is a great fan of us air force and other military or war topics... this does not help to convince me... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 15:57, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
the original image was uploaded from this source : http://www.spangdahlem.af.mil/photos/media_search.asp?q=dj&page=2 . As anyone can see the topic of this gallery is not specialized in musical events or entertainment... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 16:07, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I'll try to explain the situation one more time, but I can't promise I'll engage you further since your actions and comments are beginning to verge on disruption of the encyclopedia. I can't speak for Binksternet, but I honestly don't have any special love for the US military nor do I have any personal prejudice against it, but more to the point, editors personal feelings aren't relevant to the job of improving Wikipedia articles and should not be a topic of Talk page discussion. I originally added the image in question because it was a well-framed, high resolution image of a DJ that came from a copyright-free source. After considering your objections, myself and another established editor agreed that the image was appropriate and suitable for inclusion. The fact that DJ Blaze's photo happened to be taken at an Air Force base party in Germany is no more relevant than the fact that DJ Spooky's photo was taken at the Sundance Film Festival. There is no Wikipedia policy I know of that restricts locations where images were photographed. That really is the long and short of it. Again, I suggest you find wider support for your views rather than continuing your disruptive behavior here. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:34, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I thank you for answering my question. So now we have a fairly rational base to debate here as you admit your intention in publishing this image was to find a "well-framed, high resolution image of a DJ that came from a copyright-free source".. fair enough! then in my opinion i agree the picture you choosed totally match these requirements, but i think it could be a better choice. I still don't understand something, it would not come to my mind to look into military copyright free stock image to find a good picture of a DJ!!?? i would go (for example) to flickr.com which has a huge stock of copyright free picture made by amateur or professional photographer. we could find tons of better picture very easily.I find very depressing the way i was threated here just because my intention was to enhance the quality and the beauty of an article. I mean ok this picture is well framed and it is high resolution but it's also more than that : it was taken during a military event in a military base occuring in front of professional military and even the photo was taken by a member of the us army, so in my opinion this picture is more related to a specific military event than the average musical event. I'm sure it won't come to your mind to search a picture at a counter-culture website to illustrate an article about a general of the navy or any kind of military topic.. That's the reason why i advocate that WE could find a better image and enhance the quality of this article. Now that the edit is locked it's the good time to choose in plain serenity the best image among several proposals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 13:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't have any problem with you looking for another image, perhaps of a counterculture DJ. However you frame your position, though, it sounds like you don't want the USAF DJ because he was working for a military service arm. I'm sorry, but that is one of the many possibilities of the career of a DJ. The DJ's customer is a typical one; other DJs will run into the same type of gig.
The photo is well-composed and it is dramatic. I like it a lot. If you find a counterculture DJ photo, place it elsewhere in the article. Don't replace the USAF DJ just because of his customer. Binksternet (talk) 15:43, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Like you said Binksternet for a professional DJ, mixing for the us air force is a very singular event in a career if not extremely rare or never happening, probably because partying is not a primary mission of the USAF. Indeed it is so specific it makes even less reasonable to illustrate an article with such a picture... we're talking about semiotics. I still don't see no serious reason not to replace this strange picture even though Binksternet likes it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 17:18, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
one more thing Binksternet: to quote LuckyLouie "editors personal feelings aren't relevant to the job of improving Wikipedia articles and should not be a topic of Talk " . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 17:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Following Binksternet logic, it seems that the USAF DJ picture could appear in the article, but should not be the top illustration of this article, as it represents a minor event.
I remark that the protection of the article is abusive, considering this statement : «  Semi-protection should not be used as a pre-emptive measure against vandalism that has not yet occurred, nor should it be used solely to prevent editing by unregistered and newly registered users, nor to privilege registered users over unregistered users in content disputes. »

Looking at my edits in history clearly shows NO vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.36.58 (talk) 13:04, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Date inaccuracies[edit]

The caption for the bottom-most picture is almost certainly inaccurate. It claims "DJ Hazel in the late 1990s", however it appears to show a DJ with a pair of Pioneer CDJ-1000, which weren't released until 2001. //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 14:49, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

LOL, you're right, the metadata for the photo says it was taken 13 June 2008 (!). - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:54, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
It's a terrible photo either way, and should probably be dropped in its entirety. //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 14:55, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I just moved it to the gallery in case anyone really loves it. - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:59, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

1960[edit]

the wore tigh short dresses — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.171.160 (talk) 17:50, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Changes due to advances in DJ Technology[edit]

I have published an additional paragraph in the Techniques section to reflect the changes in DJ methodology/skills as a result of new technologies found in DJ hardware and software.

Discussion on these points welcomed, particularly from user 58.111.64.68 who has conducted multiple reverts without any explanation. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremyiliev (talkcontribs) 02:28, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Well I have found that even though there has been a large shift in the technique used by DJ's , the technology used is a matter of preference. The place I work at alone Supersonic Speakerhire has a wide variety of DJ decks , scratch kits and mixers as well as speakers. This is mainly due to each DJ preferring to use his own specific gear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.161.23.72 (talkcontribs)
Good additions, but they need a citation to some published source. Wikipedia operates under a WP:No original research policy, meaning that personal experience should not be the whole basis for editing additions. Something should be found in, say, a guide to DJing, about new technologies. I can help you with citing sources. Read up on WP:CITE if you want to jump in and get going. Binksternet (talk) 02:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure what citations would be relevant - the paragraph above doesn't include any citations when explaining the existing/traditional techniques so I didn't have anything as a guide. I avoided linking to specific DJ software for not wanting to appear as though it was advertising or promotion. Would linking to the specifications of the hardware/software in question, where the features described are outlined, satisfy the need for citation? Jeremyiliev (talk) 02:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

The additions just got reverted for a 3rd time by user 58.111.64.68, what is my best option moving forward? I saw there is a dispute resolution method for 3RRs, should I follow that and make a report? Jeremyiliev (talk) 03:23, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

That IP editor is headed for a block because of unreasonable reversions. The IP geolocates to Brisbane, Australia, which is a seacoast town in what is now their midwinter. I am guessing that the IP editor is angry from recent lack of work, and will settle down when the crowds return to the beaches.
Regarding your addition, I think we can find some decent DJ guides that support some or all of it. I'm not very worried, and I don't think you should be. Binksternet (talk) 03:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Well, I looked around and did not find any kind of guide that talks about new technology without concentrating on a particular manufacturer's gear. The technology choices are pretty specific, not very general. I will continue to look. By the way, there are some fun short videos to watch at Rane's website, one of the places I was looking for a general guide. Binksternet (talk) 22:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Photo should be removed[edit]

DJ whatever performing at an AIR FORCE ball?! Wikipedia should not promote a military agenda!! Please choose a CIVILIAN DJ performing at a civilian festival. Thank you. 93.219.166.236 (talk) 04:54, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

  • Feel free to provide an appropriately licensed, high quality picture of a civilian DJ. Editors often choose the most visually appealing images for articles, not necessarily for pushing certain agendas. As the US military's images are all PD, it means there will be a lot of military images available. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:40, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
  • The DJ is actually a civilian entertainer. Previously discussed here. Consensus was to keep the photo. - LuckyLouie (talk) 17:14, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
    • Don't refer to this discussion regarding any consensus, there was not a consensus since the 2 editors (both specialist on military topics) refused to change the photo after several propositions.. which constitute a clear abuse of their hierarchical power as veteran editors of this "particiipative" encyclopdia.. This photo and its caption are a non sense for this encyclopedy.. really sorry to see this has not been solved 3 years later.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.64.16.211 (talk) 00:30, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
I changed the image on the page. It is up to you to discuss deletion of this image if you so choose.Steve Lux, Jr. (talk) 12:28, 21 July 2014 (UTC)