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edit · history · watch · refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Dodo:
  • copyedit
  • 2 paragraph lead
  • get to 15 references
  • alice in wonderland, older paintings
  • Use Albatross as model
  • Please consider the notes on phylogeny at Rodrigues Solitaire and compare Johnson & Clayton (2000) (see Pigeon article) - at least cyt b cannot resolve the relationships of the Indoaustralian lineage properly. So the phylogeny proposed in the much-touted "Flight of the Dodo" paper must be taken with so much salt that it nearly becomes unpalatable, unfortunately. See e.g. their placement of "Gallicolumba beccari" (sic), which is almost certainly wrong. At any rate, here to copy'n'paste is the citation: Shapiro, Beth; Sibthorpe, Dean; Rambaut, Andrew; Austin, Jeremy; Wragg, Graham M.; Bininda-Emonds, Olaf R. P.; Lee, Patricia L. M. & Cooper, Alan (2002): Flight of the Dodo. Science 295: 1683. DOI:10.1126/science.295.5560.1683 (HTML abstract) Supplementary information

In conclusion, cyt b should be avoided for determining the interrelationships of the Indoaustralian group (for some reason, it gives crystal-clear resolution of the columbine and zenaidine lineages, however) Dysmorodrepanis 18:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

In his book A Short History of Nearly Everything, Bill Bryson claims that the last surviving Dodo specimen was kept at the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford, until a caretaker mistakenly assumed it was rubbish and put it on a bonfire (it was apparently rescued, but not before it was seriously damaged). Parts of that specimen can still be seen at the Oxford University Museum of Natural History, namely the head and foot [2]. First it was part of the John Tradescant collection and its museum. Later is was passed on to the Ashmole Museum in 1659. In 1755, it was examined and, presumably under Ashmole's statute number 8, ordered for destruction. The instruction was obeyed, but not to the letter as parts still survive. The statute also ordered that it had to substituted, but as the bird was extinct that was not possible anymore. The parts were passed from the Ashmole museum to the Oxford museum (source: Errol Fuller's book "Extinct Birds").

on the dodo birds diet i'd like to add that they reportedly ate rocks to aid in their digestion and that dodo birds have a gizzard ( second stomach) in which this was done

http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/expeditions/treasure_fossil/Treasures/Dodo/dodo.html?dinos http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Raphus_cucullatus.html http://www.birds.mu/Extinct/Dodo.htm

There's an Alice in Wonderland pic on the Dutch article. Would that be good to add? Crimsonraptor (talk) 17:23, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

That image is drawn after the "Edward's Dodo" by Roelant Savery, so it's probably redundant. All the stuff in the to do list has been done, apart from basing it on the albatross article (basing it on something like the Great Auk article would probably be more appropriate). FunkMonk (talk) 17:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

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[edit] Expression should be included?

Anyone heard "Dumb as a Dodo" maybe its an irish thing....? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.31.136 (talk) 18:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The article mentions "dead as a dodo," is that what you mean? I've never heard "dumb as a dodo." Where else have you heard this? Crimsonraptor | (Contact me) Dumpster dive if you must 18:15, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Just one link here http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/02/0227_0228_dodo_2.html there are more, i thought everyone would have known it but as i said maybe its an irish thing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.31.136 (talk) 20:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.251.153 (talk) 20:55, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Dumb as a dodo? Birds are supposed to be pretty smart..... 24.243.10.243 (talk) 22:20, 31 October 2011 (UTC)(SoulNekoCat)

[edit] Movie reference in this article.

In "Follow That Bird," Big Bird is NOT painted blue to match his dodo family. He is painted blue by his captors to hide his identity.


ALICE IN WONDERLAND

I think Lewis Carroll's nickname was dodo, and maybe that was why he included it in the book? Apparently his real name was Dodgson, and he spoke with a stammer. Of interest? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.44.25.242 (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

YOU GUYS FORGOT ICE AGE!!!!!! (SoulNekoCat)24.243.10.243 (talk) 22:22, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] New Data Shows Smaller Dodo

Two new studies show that the dodo had a smaller weight than the average of 20 kg quoted in the current Wikipedia article. One study finds that the average weight was 10.2 kg. The second study states the average weight was between 9.5 - 18 kg. Paragraph 1 and the first paragraph under the "Description" heading should be updated with this information. [1] Delwinelder (talk) 18:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

If you can provide a citation, both should be there, since it is really impossible to be sure without complete specimens. FunkMonk (talk) 01:32, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Dutch acronym....

...for the Dutch East India Company. It was pedantic to add it. Only Dutch-speaking specialists are likely to know this and it is confusing for even well-informed readers. PainMan (talk) 19:19, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] What does this article need?

To become better? Most undisputed info about the bird is now in the article, and very little is known about it apart from the old descriptions, so I have added many of those, since they are in the public domain. All important images of the bird, that is images thought to be based on live or stuffed specimens, and not simply copies of older images, have been included in the article. FunkMonk (talk) 10:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


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