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So... it's a pseudo-food made of things that are generally used to make other foods thicker? --205.201.141.146 21:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like soft-serve ice cream or yogurt, but it has a really intense pineapple flavor. 204.86.42.50 (talk) 21:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notable?[edit]

Yes, we can find various places that sell this stuff. Anyone with a soft serve machine can buy the powder and sell it, so a laundry list of locations is pointless.

This is sugar, thickeners, flavor and color, mixed with water and frozen. While it might be a "treat" when you buy it in the middle of a hot day at a theme park, notability require independent reliable sources. Blogs ranting about it, travel guides mentioning it and Dole and the production company selling it are not useful here.

Without substantial coverage in independent reliable sources, this is not a notable product.

I'll let this sit for a bit. I haven't been able to find useful sources. If no one else can, I'll probably suggest deletion. - SummerPhD (talk) 15:16, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dole Whip may not be a notable product in the grand scheme of things, but it holds iconic status within the Disney Parks community and has a cult-like following there, even among people that might not eat it if it were available at their local ice cream shop. It is probably more "notable" for its link to Disney than it as as a standalone frozen treat. See e.g., ^[1] and ^[2]. Jrtoastyman (talk) 14:34, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That is pretty much the problem. We have plenty of blogs and such saying it is something they have every time they go to Disney___________. We do not, however, have independent reliable sources saying much more than "it exists".

Pick a random product at a random chain store: kid's t-shirts at Walmart, perhaps? With a bit of digging, you will find blogs written about kid's t-shirts from Walmart: "I found a really cute...", "...outrageously cheap...", "...child labor in...", "...much smaller than any other store's 'medium' size...", "I always buy...", etc. We can also find sources from Walmart and other dependent sources proving that they exist. Walmart is certainly notable.

Disney and Walmart are both notable. Their own sites prove they have soft serve and t-shirts. Blogs say their products are great/nothing special/horrible. Independent reliable sources have nothing meaningful to say about either one. - SummerPhD^v2.0 00:26, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Primary source problems[edit]

Yes, it is gluten-free, dairy-free, etc. Yes, here is a list of flavors. We can do this with any product: pull up the company's website and regurgitate what they have to say about it. This is basically advertising.

Sugar, stabilizers, preservatives, colors and flavors mixed with water is "gluten-free". So are lollipops, Kool-aid, American cheese, bottled water, rice cakes, etc. None of that is noteworthy. How can we tell? Because independent reliable sources have not seen fit to discuss it. "Soft serve" is virtually ALWAYS gluten-free. Saying this soft serve is gluten free is like saying Poland Spring bottled water is not fried: it is true, but meaningless. We might as well mention in Tom Cruise that he breathes air to provide oxygen to his cells.

This entire article is similarly troubled. The Mousekateers seem to feel this stuff is notable. There is little to indicate that it is. Blogs raving about soft serve, mentions in travel guides and coverage from the company do not make this product notable. I'm thinking a redirect to Soft serve might be appropriate here. - SummerPhD^v2.0 00:52, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Widely distributed in the US[edit]

I've replaced the very long list of vendors with a simple "widely available". I don't see any point in listing more than 20 mostly unsourced vendors. Meters (talk) 22:09, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Misleading statement[edit]

Sorry, I've never edited any articles on wikipedia, and do not feel comfortable trying. However this statement on the article for Dole Whip is misleading and the citation used does not support it... so I'm hoping someone more experienced might change it.

"Similar or identical desserts modeled after the Dole Whip but not manufactured or served by Dole are generically called pineapple whip."

Pineapple Whip is a product that existed before Dole created Dole Whip. Saying that pineapple whip is modeled after this singular product misleads readers into believe that this company is the originator of this type of dessert.

The citation used after this statement (cite note 3) explicitly states that pineapple whip was created in the mid-1970's in Springfield, Missouri. Additionally, this magazine dates pineapple whip being made in 1974.

I do feel a little silly and pedantic asking for this sentence to be re-worded (or removed if deemed necessary)... but I also feel justified because there was prior discussion about Dole Whip being notable. Pineapple whip, as regional & seasonal street-food, does have more news articles discussing it and its founder than there are blogs about it (such as NPR, the magazine The Feast, and smaller local publications like The Springfield News Leader). As a dessert, it is consistently described as a type of soft serve... so if my little quibble is used as justification to redirect to the Soft serve article then that's perfectly amenable. 192.190.140.32 (talk) 04:48, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://themeparks.about.com/od/waltdisneyworld/ss/Disney-Worlds-Top-Ten-Best-Snacks-and-Desserts.htm#step10

[2] ttp://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2014/07/28/the-best-thing-i-ever-ate-in-disney-snacks-vol-ii/

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