Talk:Domovoy
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No consensus for a standalone Dvorovoi article Polyamorph (talk) 12:14, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Support Dvorovoi is an ancient stub, not enough material or separate substance for a standalone article. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose See sources in the article ru:Дворовой. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 02:04, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Well, nice to have sources. Any reason these can't go into Domovoy? An article also needs content, not just sourcing, you know. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Also see WP:NOENG. Non Eglish sources are permitted but if there are English alternatives they would be preferable. Лобачев Владимир you haven't given a reason why this deserves a stand-alone English article. Polyamorph (talk) 08:34, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- See Encyclopedia of Russian & Slavic Myth and Legend and Russian Folk Belief. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 08:59, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
The Dvorovoi or Yard Spirit, for example, can be downright malicious. It is said that he hates all white animals, whether cats, dogs, or horses. Only chickens are immune, because these are protected by a special divinity of chickens, who is represented by a round stone with a hole in it that is sometimes found in fields. A Dvorovoi can even be fatally dangerous. An old tale tells of how a Dvorovoi fell in love with a mortal woman and lived with her for several years, plaiting her hair. — Slavic Sorcery: Shamanic Journey of Initiation
DVOROVOI In Russian folklore this is the spirit of the farmyard. He hated beasts with white fur and would tease them, but he would tolerate white hens. Young calves and foals were not safe from his malevolence, and had to be reared in the farmhouse until they were strong enough to withstand the Dvorovoi's teasing. — Spirits, Fairies, Gnomes, and Goblins: An Encyclopedia of the Little People
The domovoi, or spirit of the house, is the most important and frequently encountered domestic spirit, and, indeed, the others— the dvorovoi (spirit of the yard), bannik (spirit of the bathhouse), and ovinnik (spirit of the threshing barn)— seem to represent subdivisions of the domovoi.2 The narratives about domestic spirits presented here are concerned almost exclusively with the domovoi, though one story concerning the more evil-natured dvorovoi is included. — Soviet Anthropology and Archeology
--Лобачев Владимир (talk) 09:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC)The dvorovoi is a figure extremely close to the domovoi it its main occupation is the care of the livestock. Here before us is nothing other than the division of the image of the domovo i , a part of whose function receives an independent personification: purely domestic matters and the general protection of the family are the task of the domovoi , and matters of the yard pass on to the dvorovoi. — Materials for the Study of Russian Folklore
- Also see WP:NOENG. Non Eglish sources are permitted but if there are English alternatives they would be preferable. Лобачев Владимир you haven't given a reason why this deserves a stand-alone English article. Polyamorph (talk) 08:34, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Well, nice to have sources. Any reason these can't go into Domovoy? An article also needs content, not just sourcing, you know. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- oppose. Different subjects. Article size is more about laziness of wikipedians rather than subject. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:17, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Support a merger with Domovoy or with a general article about Slavic spirits. At the current state it is not worth keeping it, unless the article will be rewritten from scratch with WP:RS.--Eckhardt Etheling (talk) 13:32, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Šetek
[edit]Does the image of the Šetek really depict a Domovoy? It looks like the depiction of the Devil from Codex Gigas. Cf. File:Codex-Gigas-Devil-enhanced.jpg 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 18:19, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
