Talk:Don't Believe the Truth

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Stop the clocks[edit]

The article says that what happened to Stop the clocks is a mystery. I thought that Noel said in his last webcast that it was cut because they just didn't feel that it was ready yet? Does anyone know for sure? --Apyule 06:50, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Album Length[edit]

I have heard little criticism in the press of the album's length, and none from any fellow fans as yet, 40+ minutes is standard for a lot of albums and also steers clear of the criticism that the band received for 'Be Here Now', being overlong and bloated. In any case, albums are not supposed to be a collection of all the songs a band has written, they are a suite of music that is supposed to be listened to from start to finish. In my opinion at least. I wondered if anybody else thought that the remarks on the album's length were perhaps unnecessary?

Even though I did an edit that left the length comments in, I do agree with you on this. Looking at it now, I don't think that there is anything esential in the whole last paragraph. --Apyule 03:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Nobody has defended it yet, so it goes until someone does. --Apyule 06:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I support that decision. I never noticed it was short at all.--Crestville 15:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Setlists?[edit]

Are they appropriate for this article? Couldn't there simply be external links to the band's latest gigography? --Madchester 19:18, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

yeah, why are they there?--Crestville 19:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Album Sales?[edit]

Anyone know how many copies have been sold worldwide?--Play Brian Moore 20:01, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Is there any need for this line Despite the positive reviews and successful singles, the album remains Oasis' least successful album in terms of worldwide sales as it only reached the 2 million mark by the end of 2005. The album has been out barely 6 months and the DBTT tour played to over 2 million people worldwide. Maybe we should wait until the year mark ie the end of May, before condemning this album for its poor sales.--Play Brian Moore 18:48, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Also the 2million sold do not include the number legally downloaded on the internet so I'm going to remove the line untill someone gives a valid reason to keep it in.--Play Brian Moore 01:54, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

3million worldwide people on inet say thatBobo6balde66 16:25, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

who in the world always write in this article that dbtt sold 6(!!!!) million copies? official sources say it might be at around 2-3 million. its definitely wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.210.148.190 (talk) 16:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

another thing: the album has NOT sold tripkle platinum in the uks first week. that were sales in general in this country, you jerk;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.210.148.190 (talk) 16:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Keep The Dream Alive (Canadian single)[edit]

I've taken out the reference to KTDA being released as a Candian single. The reasons for this are as follows. These "reports" were only based on postings in some forums last Autumn (2005). I've not seen any promotional material for this single at all and it certainly wasn't released in the shops. In addition, various Canadian fans have said that airplay has been pretty much non-existant. I can oly conclude, therefore, that these reports seems to be untrue, if not at least misleading. If someone can prove otherwise, then please post.

In any case, I feel that little reference should be made to radio-only singles to be honest, certainly not given the same level of priority that commercially available singles anyway.

Liam's vocal training?[edit]

I've removed this piece for now, so it can be cleared up. I do remember reading an 'article' about this a couple of years back, but I'm near certain is was proven to be fake. This was at a time when a number of fake news stories were circulating around certain Oasis forums. The report claimed to be from the Associated Press, but listed no reporter name, nor is it anywhere to be found on the Internet on any news sites. Also, it doesn't seem a kind of thing Liam would do, he's quite arrogant about his vocal abilities. Also, I see no reference to a Lisa Garvey who does anything involving vocal training, the only references I can find on Google are articles which mention Liam. Also, this hasn't been mentioned in any of the many interviews I've read and heard since then. Finally, the article went on to claim that they worked on his posture. Now, if anyone watches and listens to the Glastonbury 2004 gig and the Milan 2005 (on of the first gigs on the DBTT) you'll see that his posture is the same as it always was and his vocals are pretty much the same also. My opinion is that the story was a total and utter fabrication, no matter how well written. Of course, conclusive proof would change everything.-Mr. Monobrow 15:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

White/Starkey[edit]

Painbearer, can you or anybody else please tell me how "Alan White was talented and respected studio percussionist, his funk style was critisized for some of the band's more overblown moments in Be Here Now and Standing on the Shoulder of Giants. This was field, from which the band was willing to progress, so Starkey's more direct and simplistic way contributed to the respective album sound." is in any way relevant? For a start, it's a given that White was talented and respected, as are all members of Oasis so there's really no need to spell it out in an article unless maybe referring to any awards or any personal praise from one of his peers or something like that, which should be kept to White's own page. Secondly, I've never, ever, ever seen any piece of opinion, both professional or amateur that blames White for an "overblown" sound. Thirdly, the piece about Starkey's sound on the record is nothing but personal opinion, unless you can provide a quote by a member of the band or production crew which suggests otherwise.-Mr. Monobrow 00:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

actually, i have read something about white's sound being partly resposible for Oasis overblown sound. I couldn't give you the source, but I'd have to agree. Same goes for Starkey's sound. It's much more simplistic. It's got a cool "caveman" thump going on. SONTSOG was not overblown though and a source would be necessary.--Crestville 00:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
It's written from this review and I certainly agree with it. And I think that SotSoG has some overblown moments as I noted (in fact is my favourite Oasis album, but... yet, again...). Not to mention the fact, that it's their worst seller. So, I certainly agree with that and I wouldn't put information I'm not aware of, or not absolutely fucking sure that I'm right. Thanks for your attention: Elan Morin Tedronai 13:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)