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This article was on Votes for deletion. The result was keep. --cesarb 02:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

from previous version: ": CIA mind control victim produce during behavior mod programs in california prisons. See Jolley West."

This would need to be fleshed out and backed up--what evidence is there/who claims that the CIA was doing mind control experiments? In particular, did DeFreeze assert this? Vicki Rosenzweig 20:58, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Looks like you and I both went to correct this article at the same time! A quick Google didn't cough up anything around CIA mind control, so my supposition is that it's a minority / 'crackpot' viewpoint. --Morven 21:02, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

What I'm wondering is whether DeFreeze at some point made this claim; if so, we might mention it as his position. Vicki Rosenzweig 21:10, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Well, there are some articles describing this theory: [1] is one. Most of the results being returned are copies of the same article. I believe that DeFreeze himself never claimed this, or these (which are quite frankly conspiracy-nut websites) would be crowing it from the rooftops. --Morven 21:30, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Deserves lk to his namesake Cinqué (whose own article is overdue.) When did he start using that name?
--Jerzy•t 23:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

What is the BS about "expensive Akadama brand plum wine"? I doubt it's true, and I googled it and it's not expensive.

Cinque was a hero. This guy DeFreeze was a GHETTO RAPIST!! He sexually assaulted Patty Hearst.Rawoyster (talk) 13:33, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Reference 1 is from a highly biased piece of writing, may require some attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.241.55.116 (talk) 16:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, some glaring questions persist which would seem to validate some of these rumors: 1. How did an unremarkable petty criminal escape from Vacaville? 2. Where did an uneducated man learn such extensive mind control techniques? 3. Why is there no reference or Wikipedia inclusion of Colston Westbrook, a black CIA operative working on the MK-Ultra mind-control experiments as an undercover black radical at Vacaville Prison, when there are references to him all over the web? Here are just a few: www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Why%20Was%20Hearst%20Kidnapped%201.html www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6218 www.spectacle.org/0807/thieme.html--Almightybooblikon (talk) 22:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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