Talk:Donald Keene

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I question the statement: "In 1978, Keene earned a second Ph.D (Litt.D), from Cambridge." I believe this was an honorary degree and not one that Keene earned; if I am right it should be added to the list of his eight other honorary degrees. I realize this language was taken largely from the web page of Columbia's Department of East Asian Languages and Cultures and / or from some other Keene-related sources so the ambiguity is not Wikipedia's fault, but it still needs to be clarified.

In English-speaking countries Litt.D.'s are seldom earned and are almost always honorary; I have never heard of anyone else actually earning a Litt.D. from Cambridge in the past century, though I have heard of such degrees being awarded honoris causa. I also doubt that Keene would have had either the incentive or the time to pursue a second doctorate at a university in the U.K. when he was already a senior, tenured professor in the same field at a top American university and had already received the Order of the Rising Sun. What would a 56-year-old scholar in his position need or want with a second earned doctorate, and why would he devote so much time and energy to earning such a degree instead of pursuing his career? For that matter, how would be satisfy Cambridge's requirements while living and working in New York? --4.232.225.218 04:21, 27 September 2005‎

No, but I remember reading in one of his autobiographical textes that he studied Japanese in the UK for a while as a young man and how different (only old literature written in the now obsolete style) it was from the States.--Radh (talk) 13:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Formerly Donald Keene?[edit]

Collapsed irrelevant speculation. This is a WP:BLP article, so randomly guessing and misrepresenting sources is highly inappropriate. The actual facts of the case are summarized in the section below. 182.249.240.29 (talk) 10:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

What's the basis for the statement that he's changed his name? Kiin Donarudo sounds like a standard Japanization of a western name. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 23:58, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Please take a look at Martin Fackler's New York Times article here. See also "Donald Keene obtains Japanese citizenship; shows off 鬼怒鳴門 as his name" in Japan Today. --Ansei (talk) 14:15, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Neither article says he's changed his name. Both give Japanese renderings of his *English* name. Because of phonetic differences, you can't render his name in Japanese without changing the pronunciation. My first name in Japanese is アイザック (Kana) or Aizakku (Romanji), according to Google Translate. The reporter Jake Adelstein is ジェイク・エーデルスタイン or Jeiku ēderusutain when he writes for Japanese media. This is a re-rendering, not a name change. It's similar to the way my grandfather stopped spelling his last name Рабинович and started spelling it Rabinovitch when he moved from Russia to Canada.--Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 18:18, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
The process which involved giving up American citizenship was mirrored by a process which involved the registration of 鬼怒鳴門 among the lists of Japanese citizens.

Please review the re-drafted 1st paragraph with its inline cite support. Perhaps there is no cause for dispute in the words of the current version of the article? --Ansei (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Keene's officially registered Japanese name is キーン ドナルド; 鬼怒鳴門 is a nickname[edit]

The Japanese sources all specify this. The kanji are his gagou.[1] He occasionally uses them as his nickname, but in the family register he is officially registered with the katakana transcription of his English name.[2] 182.249.240.29 (talk) 10:02, 11 December 2013 (UTC)