Talk:Drake's Plate of Brass
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Why does the caption on the image say "Note the hole in the lower left" when the hole is in the lower right? Nvinen 22:49, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Perhaps because I am an idiot? Must have been late. Nice catch. Chris vLS 00:02, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Are we able to add a short description of who Drake is and why he is important? - Ta bu shi da yu 06:03, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)\
Was the ultraviolet inscription ever found? Rich Farmbrough 17:03, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- No it never was, thats why the wikipedia authors were able to write about it. But seriously, it should be mentioned how they found out about it. (unsigned, by 188.8.131.52)
- It's a HUGE question mark about the 2002 story -- there's no mention in the article of anyone checking for it, or for the authors going asking for the Bancroft to examine it. Of course, the plate when found was pretty dirty -- the hoaxsters had burned it a couple times -- but someone cleaned it up, since it looks shiny now . . . perhaps removing the paint? . . .
- Anyway, the source for it is the account's from Noll and the ECV "Preposterous Plate" book.
- Chris vLS 20:15, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Satisfactory...credo quia absurdum
- I'll add that the paint isn't there now. Not that I know anything about this excellent story, but you implied it above. Tempshill 18:08, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- In footnote 13 to the 2002 Von der Porten et al. article in California History, vol. 81, no. 2, pp. 116-133, which is the definitive public exposure of the hoax, it is stated that tests for the fluorescent paint were conducted in 1994 and 2002. These showed that "small spots of luminescence, not natural to brass, firmly adhere to indentations in the back, around the hole which had been cut out as if to hold an Elizabethan sixpence. No luminescence appeared in the many letter grooves on the front of the plate, showing that the fluorescent material had not come from the soil or the artificial weathering process [performed by the hoaxers to make the plate appear old]... The fluorescent material survived only in fractures around the hole for the coin grooves because William Caldeira and Beryle Shinn had scrubbed the plate and a group of printers had cleaned the plate with kerosene..." WMThomas (talk) 16:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)