Talk:Dravidian languages

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Bellari, Bellary and Belari[edit]

What's going on here? — Lfdder (talk) 21:24, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Belari [brw] in inland near Belari town where the three states meet, not on the coast. We don't have RS that this other Belari is a distinct language. (Not even sure about the first.) — kwami (talk) 23:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Encyclopedia of the World's Endangered Languages, p. 343 says Bellari speakers near Udupi. Map on the previous page. — Lfdder (talk) 00:00, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Substrata in Dravidian itself?[edit]

The article mentions a Dravidian substratum in North India, but I thought there was evidence of pre-Dravidian substrata in South India too, indicating that Dravidian speakers migrated into South India from further north (specifically the northwest, ultimately perhaps from Iran). I think Witzel mentions something to this effect. There's also Toda, which is strikingly divergent typologically. Anyone know more about this topic? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 15:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)