Talk:Duct tape

Clarification of Aus/NZ section

I've been in various bits of the production industry in Aus for 12 years, I'm unaware of gaffer tape having an adhesive resistant to removing paint, etc. In my experience the standard Nashua 357 gaffer will happily remove paint, wallpaper and anything else it's stuck to, the last thing I would do is put gaffer tape up a wall that needed to stay looking nice. Saying duck tape here will generally get you an odd look and duct tape is for, well, ducts and has no cloth. What I don't understand is calling cloth tape "duct" tape, surely the cloth makes it not stretchy and hence unsuitable for ducts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.42.189 (talk) 10:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

US-centrism seems to have led to the removal of the Aus/NZ section again. Duct tape is completely different stuff in Australia! This article is misleading. Myk (talk) 06:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

It isn't, actually. We know exactly what Duct tape is, and we know the difference between Duct tape, and wide electrical tape - I've never heard of what amounts to wide electrical tape being referred to as Duct Tape. If anything, Duct tape is sometimes (wrongly) called gaffer tape here, lumping it in with actual gaffer tape. Churba (talk) 14:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

"Wide electrical tape" as you call it is labelled "duct tape" on actual rolls of tape throughout Australia and New Zealand! Just because you've never heard of it being called that doesn't make the photo of actual Australian duct tape included in the section a fictional creation. "Duct Tape" is not a universal term, and the article should reflect that. Isn't the point of Wikipedia to be a world-wide resource? Myk (talk) 16:43, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Also, please don't claim there is no citation in the section when there is a citation to a page that specifically mentions the difference between tapes in the US and Australia. Myk (talk) 16:50, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

And I can label myself the pope, and it doesn't make it so. If a manufacturer wants to label their electrical tape as "Duct tape", well, that's their choice, but it doesn't make it so, and it certainly doesn't change the fact that Australians generally know the difference between Duct tape and electrical tape, no matter what the manufacturer chooses to call it. On top of that - it's a single picture of a single roll of tape, with no other information, but for that you're the one that took the picture and added it to the page, and later replaced it with the current version which blurs the brand name. It's about as much evidence for that section as the picture of a game boy pocket printer on the Printers article is evidence that all printers are Game boy pocket printers.

While I'm reasonably sure it wasn't me that added the citation needed tag - might have been, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't - it absolutely DOES need the citation needed tag, because the only citation provided in that section goes back to a 404, but on investigation, it shows an article about the construction of Medieval re-enactment rapier construction by his preferred method, and barely mentions the tape in question. When it does, he notes that it's sold as Vinyl duct tape, that's it's different from US duct tape, and that if it's colored and/or a bit thinner, it's called electrical tape. Which would, if anything, support the "Wide electrical tape" definition. Further, in no way does it meet the Wikipedia standards for a reliable source - It's not a reliable, published source(It's a mostly unrelated guide, as mentioned, which barely mentions the tape, and it's a single person's guide on his preferred method of rapier construction, published by a small reenactment group of just over 100 members, and originally posted no later than 2004, on his personal website, from which it was copied verbatim), it does not appear in any other source which meet those criteria, and it doesn't directly support the content as written in the article. In short, as a reference, it's utter bollocks.

Thus, I'm removing said extremely poor citation, And adding a citation needed tag. If you believe so strongly that this is the case, then you should be able to find a reliable source for this information. And after a quick burn through the revisions page, it shows that you're the one that added it in the first place - but that was quite a while ago, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and instead of removing it as original research with zero verifiability beyond a single context-less picture that you yourself took and added, I'm putting up the call for a citation(that isn't bollocks, though that shouldn't need to be said) to prove it. Preferably by someone else, as so far, you've consistently shown to be particularly defensive of the truth of this claim, but as of yet have not actually proved it to any reasonable standard required by Wikipedia. Churba (talk) 01:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps due to the discussion above, the section on Aus/NZ duct tape neglects to say what the alleged difference is between it and the "US-centric" version, it just claims that it's different. Personally speaking, I don't see a difference from looking at the product's picture. Fitfatfighter (talk) 07:16, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'm giving up on trying to edit this section. Please believe me that Every single roll of tape labelled "duct tape" in Australian shops is a vinyl tape like electrician's tape, but wider, with no cloth component. I have spent hours searching for some decent sources for this information online, but have been unsuccessful. When I walk into any store selling tape in Australia (supermarkets, hardware stores, whatever), the stuff labelled 'duct tape' is as I say, and the stuff described in this article is labelled 'cloth tape'. Oh, and by the way, the reenactment group in question has over 2000 members in Australia, much less worldwide (Where are you getting your facts from?) Any advice you can give me as to what kind of sources would be considered acceptable for this particular piece of information would be most helpful. Myk (talk) 11:50, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

• Bunnings is Australia's largest hardware store - This is their 'duct tape' [1]
• Searching for 'duct tape' on Woolworths' (major Australian supermarket corporation) online shopping site [2] brings up Cling brand tape exactly like the one in the photo I added. (Though I had to remove the brand because someone removed the image from this article page due to its branding some time back.)
• Mitre 10 (another Australian hardware store) - search for duct tape and you get the same kind of PVC tape with no cloth [3]
• Coles (another major Australian supermarket chain) have online shopping system here: [4]. Searching for 'duct tape' finds Scotch tape, which is a different type of tape altogether (and the product's own labe doesn't include the word 'duct' at all.)
• Officeworks in Australia also sells 'duct tape' that is a PVC tape with no cloth component [5] (also available in black) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Politas (talk • contribs) 02:14, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Other Uses of Duct tape

I think that there should be a topic on the main article about other uses for duct tape, such as prom dresses and wallets. Thanks for listening! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.37.14 (talk) 23:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

No mention of Metal foil duct tape

--Ericg33 (talk) 22:41, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Do it yourself. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:45, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Wart Treatment ! ! !

I propose that the section on wart treatment be removed, as it is of negligible relevance to the subject. The information is on the wart page. At most a single short sentence in the "Popular Culture" section would be more appropriate. Darkman101 (talk) 04:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC)