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First third generation star[edit]

This is actually not true. Jeff Jarrett was a third generation wrestler before The Rock. Rock was just BILLED as the first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.84.45.140 (talk) 00:33, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Pic flop?[edit]

Does anyone else find it odd that in the top section where he's referred to as "The Rock", his wrestling name, there's a current picture of him from a film festival... but down below, where it talks about his film career and refers to him as "Dwayne Johnson", he appears to be in his wrestling days and raising the People's Eyebrow in the pic?

The Rock 2002 information[edit]

Why does the Rock's information that is sourced from 2002 get removed always? Whitmore 8621--Whitmore 8621 (talk) 22:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Citation needed???[edit]

Gosh, how can they stamp an article as a "Good Article" when the page has at least one important information with a "citation needed" tag following it? I am refering to the information "For this film, he received the highest salary for an actor in his first starring role, earning $5.5 million". I have now added the proper citation, but the Wikipedians should be more careful before choosing an article in the "good" or "featured" category.Cupidvogel (talk) 14:37, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Frequent vandalism, vote to semi-protect[edit]

Alright, what the hell just happened these last three days? I just noticed an edit war with someone using multiple IPs. Anyway, although I'm not exactly a veteran here on Wiki, don't you think this article should be semi-locked to prevent further false edits and damn headaches caused by trolls? Hitmonchan (talk) 02:31, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Discrepancy between this article and article on McKinley school[edit]

This article says that Johnson was at the McKinley school in the 10th grade but the McKinley school article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_William_McKinley_High_School went to that school only for his freshman year only. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.163.235 (talk) 06:09, 25 November 2010 (UTC) He's said he went to 10th grade in Nashville, but I guess he could've changed schools during the year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.236.43 (talk) 20:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

A Title Suggestion[edit]

I looked at the move logs, and have started to wonder about this: why isn't this article at the hybrid title of "Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson"? It combines the article names Dwayne Johnson and The Rock (entertainer) into one, and also hints at his wrestling career. -- Réeduck 10:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

That's probably not a bad idea given how widely known he is as The Rock. Up until only a few years ago his movie billings always included The Rock moniker as well. Perhaps worth waiting to see how long his return to the WWE lasts though (despite his statement that he's "never, ever going away"), but he's clearly going to be The Rock in that as long as he stays there. --jjron (talk) 11:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
He will ALWAYS be The Rock, no matter what!! Djjazzyb (talk) 03:02, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Removal of engagement section[edit]

There's been a bit of an ongoing saga regarding edits by ScissorsEzra (talk · contribs) regarding insertion of information regarding an apparent engagement with an old flame, sourced to IMDB. Unfortunately, IMDB is really not a good source for this kind of thing as it's user-edited, and a hunt around the web turned up zero other sources outside of Wikipedia mirrors regarding the alleged engagement. I have removed the section again, and will be encouraging User:ScissorsEzra to provide better sources if they are available. This is a WP:BLP after all, so we need to be cautious. Tony Fox (arf!) 17:38, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Literary Debut?[edit]

In the beginning of the article, it states he wrote the book in 2000 (The Rock Says), but in the Personal Life section, he wrote the book in 1999? Could someone fix this?--75.32.206.16 (talk) 02:36, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I changed it to 2000 then noticed it was published on the 24th of December 1999 in Canada then 5th January 2000 elsewhere. JJJJS (talk) 21:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Have changed them all to 2000, as the inconsistency was still there. I can find no reference to state it was published earlier in Canada - all refs in the article give a publication date of 2000, and a copy I have access to says it was first published in the USA in 2000 (i.e., as its date of first publication, with no mention of Canada). Also reworded the sections, as for starters DJ did not self-publish the book as the article previously implied. The NYT bestseller list info (and yes it was on there) should really be better worded and referenced too, if anyone can find that. --jjron (talk) 11:24, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

"Signed to TNA"!!!!![edit]

The Rock has officially signed a 4 year 240 million dollar contract with TNA Wrestling. He recently left the WWE after being forced to lose his title to John Cena at Wrestlemania. According to the script, Johnson was supposed to beat Cena, only to have Dolph Ziggler cash in his money in the bank opportunity and take the title from him. However, he was upset on having to lose to Cena. This contract marks the biggest wrestling contract in the history of proffessional wrestling.It is rumored that tna general manager Hulk Hogan put some of the money out of his own pocket to sign Johnson. It the also rumored that "The Icon" sting chipped in as well, although the amounts they respectively gave up are unknown.

This is a Lie :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.239.103.133 (talk) 20:51, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request from Showstopper823, 5 April 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}}

On April 4th, Monday Night Raw after Wrestlemania 27, John Cena and The Rock had a confrontation where The Rock says that he respects John Cena but, he doesn't like John Cena. John Cena said time for talking is over. John Cena issues a challenge to The Rock in a 1 on 1 match. The Rock says that he will accept that challenge only if the match is at Wrestlemania 28, which takes place in Miami, Florida. John Cena and The Rock shaked hands and the match was confirmed. But, their night wasn't done. The Corre quickly surrounded the ring in an effort to attack both The Rock and John Cena. The Corre got the upper hand for a little bit but, The Rock got back into it and started attacking Wade Barrett. John Cena also got back up and attacked Heath Slater. John Cena did his signature move (The 5 Knuckle Shuffle) on Heath Slater. The Rock then did his signature move (The People's Elbow) on Wade Barrett. John Cena then did his finisher (The Attitude Adjustment) on Heath Slater. The Rock retaliated by doing his finisher (The Rock Bottom) on Wade Barrett. They then shook hands again. Showstopper823 (talk) 04:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

It would be a good idea to wait for the excitement to settle. Meanwhile, please examine WP:REF and WP:RS. Materialscientist (talk) 04:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Spelling typo[edit]

Philanthropist is misspelled in the opening paragraph. Aghilmort Tromlihga 14:28, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

  • You can fix that, you know. DB (talk) 21:21, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Pie[edit]

I missed out on the attitude era. Why does the Rock keep saying he loves pie? How come he said he loves May Young's pie when he kisses her? What does this mean? I'm very confused. DB (talk) 21:21, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


It's a sexual innuendo referring to a woman's vagina. He also says strudel, which means penis. Hope this helps but this isn't yahoo answers you know.

Oh, and he kissed Mae Young even though she was sent as a foul joke from Ziggler and Guerrero.66.108.211.43 (talk) 02:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Listed only as African-American professional wrestler[edit]

Why is he listed as being an African-American wrestler but not a Samoan professional wrestler also?--P.4.P. No. 1 (talk) 06:55, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

In the filmography section, it says that Rock made two appearances in Family Guy. False, that's only one when he simulated Peter and Lois having sex. The other episode was just a parody of of Don Lafontaine.66.108.211.43 (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. A cartoon drawing of him with no speaking part should not qualify as an appearance. Kjscotte34 (talk) 15:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Why is Dwayne Johnson under Canadian Wrestlers??[edit]

Um no..he was born in California and atteneded the University of Flordia if anything he is African American and Samoan. Just because your parents were some place does not mean you identify as such , my parents are Russian but I was born in Boston an consider my solely American....Also The Rock was invited to speak at the 2000 Republican convention and was honored by the invite. He sat next to George Bush the elder, lets be frank here you don't get anymore American then the Republicans since they feel they are the only true Americans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.72.125 (talk) 03:37, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

"Just because your parents were some place does not mean you identify as such" - in sports in general the parents (and sometimes even grandparents nationality) gives option in terms of country affiliation when competing at international events (I know, not really applicable to pro-wrestling but thought I'd mention it as a general point). --Thefrood (talk) 23:35, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Sports and the US have nothing to do with it. By law, anyone born to a Canadian abroad since 1947 is a citizen. Rocky Johnson is Canadian, Dwayne was born abroad in 1972. Pretty simple. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:24, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.247.27.208, 4 October 2011[edit]

hes a samoan american actor......dont forget that part....

98.247.27.208 (talk) 06:52, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 13:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Theme Song[edit]

The Rock's current theme song is not his same one from 2001-2002. It's a new one called "Electrifying" by Jim Johnston. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.174.195 (talk) 13:46, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Family Guy![edit]

Should it be noted that he appeared in family guy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.62.59 (talk) 00:20, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

This was listed in his filmography section- he appeared in one episode. Someone removed it, I wonder why? Kjscotte34 (talk) 16:36, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 January 2012[edit]

In the info box on the right it says he is born in Miami, FL. But the main article says he is born in Hayward, CA. Imdb.com confirms Hayward, CA. So it looks like the info box on the right is in error and needs to be changed.

Nickdecastro (talk) 01:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done, thanks. The Interior (Talk) 01:41, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Real height[edit]

You have his billed height listed but not his true height, which is about 6'1". I think that should be listed since people are being duped into believing wrestlers are bigger than they are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haastile1 (talkcontribs) 19:32, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

He was listed at 6'5" in college... they usually only embellish by an inch or two at the most.

Edit request on 1 February 2012[edit]

Missing 's' after 'talker' in passage - ...Johnson is regarded by many as one of the greatest talker in professional wrestling history... Jamieaustin1 (talk) 03:49, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Thanks for pointing it out. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 04:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Photo[edit]

maybe add an updated photo? He looks different now — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jschork24 (talkcontribs) 14:11, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 June 2012[edit]


FALLOFALL (talk) 01:49, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:59, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 July 2012 the finishing move...The peoples elbow![edit]


60.54.69.164 (talk) 17:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

    • The peoples elbow (Running high impact elbow drop) 1994-presents

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:38, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Raw 1000th Episode[edit]

The Rock has confimed via his Twitter page that he will be making a return on the 1000th Episode of Raw, 23rd July 2012 at The Scottrade Centre in St. Louis, Missouri. He also made another reference to again becomming WWE Champion. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanbarnes07 (talkcontribs) 13:37, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

References

Edit request on 20 July 2012[edit]

|race = {{who|the|hell|even|knows}}<ref name="wwebio"/> Caroline.nutter (talk) 17:02, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done The info box does not have a race parameter. He is in category African-American though.--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:45, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Moesha Ele'cia Lawrence[edit]

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Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson[edit]

Shouldn't the page be called Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as that is his most common name? Djjazzyb (talk) 03:00, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

No, unless you can show that it is most common. From what I've heard and read over the years, "The Rock" is most common, then "Dwayne Johnson". "Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson" is third, but far ahead of "Rocky Maivia" and "Flex Cavana". InedibleHulk (talk) 21:08, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 September 2012[edit]

There is no Faster trilogy ad stated in the article. The movie is singular


92.2.25.254 (talk) 15:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Done. I concur. —KuyaBriBriTalk 19:30, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Infoboxes[edit]

Why does this article have two infoboxes? --Cameron Scott (talk) 09:03, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

The first one's a professional wrestling infobox for The Rock. The second one's a general person infobox for Dwayne Johnson. Not sure how neccesary the second is, as all it adds is his wife's name and the year he started acting (and contradicts his sourced wrestling debut date in the first infobox). This article has quite a few little problems like that. I'm thinking of generally tidying it. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:04, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Black Canadian descent[edit]

The article explicitly states Johnson's father was Black Nova Scotian, thus he is of Black Canadian descent.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:14, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

So what are you proposing? Nevermind, saw your edit. Seems a bit silly to put him in a category by himself. I'm going to leave this for now, but readd the more inclusive "American people of Canadian descent" you replaced. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:25, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
I decided to remove your edit altogether, after seeing "Americans of Black Nova Scotian descent" is already there. As Nova Scotia is part of Canada, I think this says the same thing your addition did, but more specifically. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:36, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

More relevant picture requested.[edit]

In the Professional Wrestler infobox, we have a picture of Dwayne Johnson, the actor, at a film festival. If someone who is handier with images sees the same problem here, could you find a good, free wrestling-related picture? InedibleHulk (talk) 22:09, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

The two best candidates from their following sets are [File:The Rock vs John Cena.jpg] and http://www.flickr.com/photos/simononly/7067574351/in/set-72157629792103027 . Crops will be required. Starship.paint (talk) 05:35, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I just realized this was brought up at the top of this page ("Pic Flop"). I agree with whoever wrote that comment. Would that be a problem? Not a fan of the ring rope in the pics above. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:48, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure there are pictures without ring ropes in the pictures' respective sets, but I think the most important thing is to clearly show (and not obscure) the face, which these two pictures succeed that, while other pictures are more blur and don't show the face better. You've flipped the pictures, so... question I'm thinking is, should the prowres infobox be at the top of the article or only at the start of the prowres section. Starship.paint (talk) 08:20, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
All actor and wrestler articles with infoboxes have it at the beginning. I think we should certainly have one at the beginning here. I'm leaning toward the wrestler one, since it has more info and seems to be the way it's been for a long time. I also think he's better known as a wrestler. Even when he's talked about in Hollywood media, they still often play up his former career and call him by his ring name. Plus, the Wrestling Career section is nearer the top of the page, so the infobox should be near it. The general infobox mentions his philanthropy and wife, which are covered in sections near it. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:55, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Fine, but what about the ring ropes? As I said, the most important thing for a picture is to clearly show (and not obscure) the face, which these two pictures succeed that regardless of the ring ropes obscuring some part of the body, while other pictures are more blur and don't show the face better. Starship.paint (talk) 10:11, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply, just noticed this. Yes, it's better to obscure the body than the face. Do you want to add one of those pics, or are you just saying? If you'd like to add one to the infobox, the rope should be cropped out. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:38, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Links[edit]

The link to his Memory Alpha profile is missing & since it's a locked article, only an administrator can add it. Please do so.--67.84.73.254 (talk) 17:13, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Could you share the link here, so others know what you're asking to be added? Also, any autoconfirmed user can edit this article, not just administrators. Have you considered joining Wikipedia? InedibleHulk (talk) 20:45, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Champion[edit]

People are adding that he is the new champion, when it was CM PUNK that won. It hasn't be revealed yet that The Shield interfered, nor has it been revealed CM Punk has been stripped of the title.--Mjs1991 (talk) 04:01, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

My friend, I don't know what time zone you are in or how delayed your video server/provider is, but as of the current time 23:13 Sunday January 27, 2013 (EST), The Rock has won the title belt from CM Punk after McMahon restarted the match due to The Shield's involvement. This is already recognized by the WWE institution. Truco 503 04:15, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

The Rock's Championships[edit]

please edit the top paragraphs.....the rock is now a 10-time world champion, a 8-time WWF/E and a 2-time World Heavyweight Champion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.191.189 (talk) 04:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

They still havent edited sixtenn 8+2+5+2 = 17 my maths isnt that bad is it? --QueenAlexandria talk 13:43, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

As a musician[edit]

This article does not mention that in addition to acting and wrestling, Dwayne Johnson (credited as "The Rock") is also the lead vocalist on the song "Pie" on the album "WWF The Music, Vol. 5." Even though music is not what he is known for, the album did reach #2 on the U.S. charts. Cites should be easy to find, as all this information is available on the album's wikipedia page. I would add it myself, but the page is protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.230.209 (talk) 20:14, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

He just talks over the music, and sometimes rhymes. You could call that being a "vocalist", since he uses his vocal chords, but it would be a stretch. The AllMusic review in the CD's article calls it an "unfortunate cornball attempt" at a song, and Slam says The Rock "makes his own song sound like it came from amateur night at the Apollo in New York". I won't go so far as to say he's a musician (unless there's a reliable source out there that does), but I'll note that he spoke on this track, alongside the bit about him speaking on Wyclef Jean's "It Doesn't Matter". InedibleHulk (talk) 10:49, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Fast 7[edit]

I'm not sure that should be listed in his filmography as he has already said he may have a scheduling conflict which could prevent him from appearing in the film. While it's on his IMDB filmography it's not a done deal.

66.194.162.238 (talk) 20:04, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

How do staged accomplishments get presented?[edit]

"Johnson is widely considered one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time..."

Given that the WWE is staged, what does this actually mean? I can see he was popular, but all his belts and titles were preplanned by company officials, correct? Or am I missing something? How should staged accomplishments get presented here? Dontreadalone (talk) 04:59, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Sort of like how a film actor can be considered great, even though he doesn't actually meet a girl, lose a girl, blow up bad guys and save a girl (or whatever goes on in what you'd call a great movie). The Rock had the athletic skill to make his staged moves look good, the ring psychology to get fans emotionally invested in a fake fight, the articulation to deliver entertaining rehearsed promos, the charisma to make fans want to tune in or buy tickets and the stamina to consistently do this well for years. Those are all real talents, even if fighting ability is a moot point. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:57, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
The belts also play a part. One obviously doesn't win them the same as a boxer or mixed martial artist, but being given the top belt is like being given star billing by a studio. The champ is usually the focal point of a promotion, headlining posters, doing mainstream PR and getting the big TV storylines. The fact that Vince McMahon considered Rock good for (very real) business in this way for so long indicates he was a great moneymaker. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:12, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

NOD[edit]

The article states that Rock formed the Nation of Domination, but the article itself says Farooq did. --wL<speak·check> 03:03, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

It says he formed it along with Faarooq, Kama and D'Lo. The same way a seat, along with legs and back, forms a chair. It's used in the "to serve to make up or constitute : be an essential or basic element of" sense. I think you may be confusing it with "founded", like "established". InedibleHulk (talk) 00:30, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Rename of a sub-article[edit]

I think the sub-article "The Rock 'n' Sock Connection and WWF Championship feuds" should be changed to "The Rock 'n' Sock Connection,WWF Championship feuds and rise to stardom" because The Rock is credited by many as 'the biggest star of pro wrestling' and the article didn't even mention this once.Sam89Knight (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I think this article is so long that Jimmy Wales should consider renaming Wikipedia to Dwayne Johnsopedea.
Candidate for deletion (July 2013) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.25.6 (talk) 15:42, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
In the third paragraph of the lead, we say "Johnson is widely considered one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time." No need to put it in a section header, especially since his greatness came from more than just the Foley angles. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:36, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Please[edit]

I can not edit the dwayne johnson page due to protection. BUT HIS SIGNATURE MOVE THE PEOPLES PLEX (FISHERMAN SUPLEX AND FLOAT OVER) IS MISSING. I CANNOT FIND THE EXACT PEOPLES PLEX AS IT IS AN EXTINCT MOVE BUT HE USE A FISHERMAN SUPLEX IN THE FOLLOWING MATCH JOHN CENA AND THE ROCK VS THE MIZ AND R TRUTH PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ADD THIS MOVE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.157.24 (talk) 17:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

A signature move list is not for any move a wrestler used in one (or more) match. Only moves which the wrestler is well-known for using. You'll need a source calling it a signature/trademark/favourite move. Otherwise, it's your own original research. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:48, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Discography[edit]

Didn't he also perform a cover of the song Greased Lightnin' from Grease on the Planet 51 soundtrack? It certainly sounded like him singing it during that segment. Spartan198 (talk) 14:50, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Infobox image change, and images in general[edit]

Dwayne Johnson 3, 2013.jpg

I changed the image in the infobox to the image seen to the right, because it is more recent and shows his current appearance considerably better than the current photo does. However, I changed it back since his image seems to be a point of controversy. I'm bringing it here for discussion. Should the image be changed?

Further, the image count in this article needs to lower drastically, or the words need to increase. The images clutter the text with a rather alarming amount of severity, particularly in the "feud with John Cena" area. Can an editor more familiar with this article than myself go through and reduce the amount of images in these portions? Corvoe (speak to me) 02:52, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2014[edit]

Article Of The Week (talk) 20:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. NiciVampireHeart 20:24, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2014[edit]

The most recent edit has Dwayne Johnson listed as an Academy Award winning actor and string theorist. I am quite certain he is NOT an Academy Award winning actor, but did present at the Academy Awards one year. As for being a string theorist, I'm not sure. Wikiwiki117 (talk) 02:27, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

If he is a string theorist, it doesn't matter. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:05, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done

The Rock - redirect for discussion[edit]

The usage of The Rock (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see RfD for the discussion. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 06:38, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

What about other acting roles?[edit]

Dwayne Johnson has a diverse acting career that isn't really mentioned in the article. In addition to The Scorpion King, he had the starring roles in the action-comedies The Rundown (2003)[1] and Walking Tall (2004),[2] and was a minor character in the comedy Be Cool (2005)[3]. He's also the star of the new Hercules movie out in 2014[4]. 69.205.226.160 (talk) 13:24, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

EDIT: I'm the OP for this topic and had login trouble at the time. I did not see that the titles were included in the page's intro. Would it be redundant to mention them in the Acting Career subheading? Tadakimacun (talk) 13:29, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

References

Protected edit request on 28 July 2014[edit]

Please change to #REDIRECT [[The Rock (disambiguation)#People]]{{R to disambiguation}}{{r to section}}{{r from subtopic}}

Don Muraco is also a WWF/WWE wrestler known as "The Rock", which makes him also an entertainer. Paradoctor (talk) 15:56, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

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Canadian[edit]

"Dwayne Douglas Johnson (born May 2, 1972), also known by his ring name The Rock, is an American actor and inactive professional wrestler known for his time in the WWF/WWE.[3][7][8]"

"On April 17, 2009, changes to Canadian nationality law came into effect, making all people born in the first generation abroad after 1947 to Canadian-born parents automatically (and retroactively to date of birth) Canadian citizens.[21] Johnson, through his father, thus became a Canadian."

Here is my problem. Since he obtained Canadian citizenship then why is the wiki page still saying that he is American, when it clearly should say "Canadian actor". So that's my request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Okaph (talkcontribs) 07:58, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

See MOS:BLPLEAD[edit]

WP:OPENPARAGRAPH indicates that "In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable." Mr. Johnson is a U.S. resident & citizen, & he became famous for his WWE activities in the U.S. Although he could claim Canadian citizenship, & probably Samoan citizenship for that matter, I am not aware of Mr. Johnson claiming to be anything other than an American citizen. The Canadian citizenship thrust upon him by mere circumstance is already mentioned & footnoted in the Early life section. Peaceray (talk) 05:33, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
I think that would only apply if we had to choose between two. There's no harm in saying he's both things. Did the sky fall when we gave the actor/wrestler two infoboxes? Did we blow anyone's mind by revealing he was a babyface and a heel? Did the lawyers get rich when we said he was Dwayne Johnson and The Rock?
Likewise, he also became notable for WWE matches in Canada for seven years (and on the same TV shows America gets). Remember that time he defeated Hulkamania at WrestleMania? Toronto. Where'd he beat him again? Montreal. The article remembers "Icon vs Icon", and the lead should summarize the article.
He can't claim Samoan citizenship. Not officially, anyway. His American citizenship was just as "thrust upon" him when he happened to be born there, to a woman thrust upon by a Canadian Johnson. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:02, August 13, 2014 (UTC)
Those shows were shown in several countries - does that mean we should add all the countries they were shown in to his nationality? Unless there is evidence he has expressed an opinion on the subject, or has actually applied for a Canadian passport, adding it just because a parent was Canadian and they changed the law seems strange. Are you intending to track down everyone with a wiki page with a Canadian parent and make the same change? noq (talk) 14:47, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
If that's a serious question, no. Only the ones where his parent was born and which have laws about this sort of thing (that is, only Canada).
Passports and personal opinions have no influence on citizenship. I don't have one and consider myself more a subject of the Commonwealth, but I can still vote in Canadian elections and go the doctor for free. So can The Rock. It may seem strange to you, but it's how the world works. If everyone could delete things they simply don't like, Wikipedia would be a much emptier place. I'd pretend Doom didn't happen.
I don't plan on tracking anyone down, but if I happen to notice one of these Canadians (like Carlito), I'll add it. Because it's the truth. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:53, August 13, 2014 (UTC)
I still don't see why a government making a change and incidentally imposing citizenship on him retrospectively should make the lead. Mention it later on if you think that the actions of the Canadian government have any real significance for Johnson. noq (talk) 16:04, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
The source says "he has claimed dual citizenship", not had it imposed on him by the government. The Rock says he has two citizenships, and the MOS says to include where subjects are a citizen. If he walks into a Hamilton hospital and tells the doctor "Just bring it!", it doesn't matter where he was born. The doctor will know his role, shut his mouth and do what he can for the most electrifying Canadian in sports entertainment. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:31, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
If by the source, you mean the Yahoo Canada celibrity piece, I would not rely on that any more than the IMDB claim he is a Samoan citizen through his mother - and that claims he is proud to be Samoan. None of the searches I have done have revealed anything that says he has actively claimed Canadian citizenship so it still just looks like it was something imposed on him rather than something he claimed. noq (talk) 18:51, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
You don't have to believe everything you read on Wikipedia. Plenty of what we call reliable sources have the odd lie. Or a ton of them. This one seems believable to me. Why wouldn't someone want to not pay their doctor? But whether you or I believe it doesn't matter. Verifiability, not absolute truth. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:45, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
Why is a one word stuck in a small fluff piece be of such significance that it needs to be noted in the lead? This whole thing seems WP:UNDUE. Why is it so important it belongs in the lead? noq (talk) 11:00, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
That's because we mention the nationality of a person, if known, within the first sentence or not long after, in the lead itself. starship.paint ~ regal 12:41, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, just like "American". As far as I can see, we have nothing saying Rock chose to be a US citizen. That one was completely imposed on him by the government before he could even talk. But that's not an undue mention, either. Just the way things work. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:23, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Best Known For[edit]

The lead of the article claims Johnson is "best known for his time with WWE". The three references used for that statement should all be removed, and the claim should be tagged with {{Citation needed|date=October 2014}}. Either that or the phrase should be removed entirely. Here is why. First of all, the last two references, the pages at notablebiographies.com and filmreference.com, are both unreliable sources. (Also, they were both published by "Advameg, Inc."; see the copyright notices at the bottom of both pages.) Not only that, they are both incredibly outdated. The most recent credit entry on filmreference.com is 2002, which is more than 10 years ago. On notablebiographies.com, it says "slated to open in 2005" which means the article is about 10 years old. Note that, even though it's old, it already states: "By the mid-2000s, Johnson was a full-fledged movie star." Both sources do not take into account the last 10 years of the Dwayne Johnson filmography. Next up is the first reference used. Guess why Johnson's acting career isn't mentioned there and it's all about his time with WWE... it's because it's a page at wwe.com. Articles must be based upon statements from third-party sources. Just removing the references isn't enough, because then the claim is original research and I challenge the material, so it needs to be tagged. Another solution is to remove the phrase entirely. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 20:31, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

I'd always read the "best known for" bit to apply to the professional wrestler bit only, and the sources to apply to the whole sentence. But yeah, at the end of a list, it can be misread. I think I've fixed it. Let me know if that works.
Not sure what's wrong with Advameg, aside from being a bit old. They list their sources. But that's beside the point. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:46, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Your edit is a good solution. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 20:52, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
You're welcome. And everyone's welcome to find something interesting through Advameg. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:07, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
This is really close to WP:LINKSPAM, and I feel like checking your edit history to see if you've been promoting Advameg elsewhere. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 21:43, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Well that went sour fast. What's your problem with it? InedibleHulk (talk) 21:48, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
I will explain the problem to you. We started with me stating that notablebiographies.com and filmreference.com are both unreliable sources.
WP:FILM/R explicitly writes about filmreference.com: "Not a reliable source for article use; use only for research purposes" As User:Who then was a gentleman? wrote, "There doesn't seem to be any kind of editorial review on these pages." Supplemented by User:DreamGuy's remark that "The company behind it, Advameg.com or Advameg, Inc., also runs a number of other similar sites like referenceforbusiness.com that look equally unreliable." This sentiment has been shared by various other editors. Examples for filmreference.com here ("I see no evidence of editorial control on either filmreference or the owners page. I would say no to this as a source, especially for a BLP." and "No indication of serious editorial oversight or that it meets WP:RS."), here ("[...], and filmreference.com doesn't look like a reliable source.") and here ("Filmreference.com is not a reliable source so should be replaced."). Examples for notablebiographies.com, Advameg and related websites here ("Advameg is a content farm looking for eyeballs for advertisers across multiple similar websites. Many of these have been previously discussed and rejected as sources. The biographies are anonymously written. There is no description of the editorial policy, and no identification of who the editors are."), here ("Unreliable, unsigned tertiary with no evidence of editorial oversight."), here ("I'd avoid it, we have no idea who they are.") and here ("I was unable to find any information at referenceforbusiness.com on where their articles come from, their editing process, etc. beyond that the copyright holder is http://www.advameg.com/ . I searched around referenceforbusiness.com further and found articles copied from inc.com without attribution [...]").
You then decided to write "And everyone's welcome to find something interesting through Advameg." and linked the word Advameg to the main page of the Advameg company, which is not only WP:LINKSPAM but you're recommending Wikipedia editors use unreliable content farms. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 23:08, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
I guess I'm being too harsh. I should WP:GF instead of assuming you work for Advameg. Sorry about that. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 23:46, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
All good. I disagree with a lot of the editors and would pick their arguments apart, if I was there. But I'm here, so I'll just say if you want to suggest a source you'd like better for the claims, it's fine with me. Per WP:LEADCITE, we probably shouldn't have anything for such s non-controversial claim. He's sure not known for his rapping!
But, if Advameg's a "content farm" for running multiple sites, these liars run plantation empires. We can't count someone out because they diversify. Some people said they couldn't find an About Us page. Linking to it shows there is. Clicking on a few sites will show the sources people couldn't see. It's not spam, it's evidence. And if you looked, you probably would find something interesting there. I'm not paid to say it or have a vested interest, it just seems true. If you're allowed to knock it, I'm allowed to defend it. We all have opinions. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:52, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
Also, you linked it yourself, accidentally. So we're even. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:54, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Ugh. Yes, no claims based upon poor resources and linkspam. DreamGuy (talk) 00:20, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

That source was there well before I was, and nobody was talking about spam till I linked the parent company here. No connection, if that's what you were thinking with "seemingly mass-spammed". InedibleHulk (talk) 00:35, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
Anyway, if someone's actually concerned about reliable sources, we have 26 claims sourced to OnlineWorldofWrestling, with this sort of oversight and this sort of staff. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:44, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Why no stats regarding football[edit]

I heard Dwayne Johnson played CFL football. I wanted to know his stats so I came to Wikipedia. The article only mentions he played at Miami and the Stampeders, nothing more. Are these not listed because of not seeming relevant enough or just because nobody did it? I might do it if it's the latter but I'll respect the decision if it's the former. Can anyone help me? >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemusfeci) 23:07, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Seems relevant, and I'd do it, but Google doesn't help much. If you can think of a better way to find the numbers, that'd be cool. Seems he was cut two months in from Calgary, and that suggests zero games, and all the zeroes that come with it. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:30, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
I'll check it out. I vaguely remember him on the Stampeders which means he played in games. The CFL has a low salary cap and only 2 pre-season games so it's rare to keep a player on the roster if he isn't used at least on special teams. >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemusfeci) 19:10, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Actually, you're right. Just practice roster. Found a ref. >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemusfeci) 19:19, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
If it helps it seems less strange, salary caps were only introduced in 2007. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:43, December 31, 2014 (UTC)
"Over his four years with the Hurricanes, the 6-foot-5, 290-pound Johnson started only once, appearing in 39 games with a total of 77 tackles and 4.25 sacks." InedibleHulk (talk) 02:37, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2015[edit]

Dwayne johnson as an acton, wrestler and a velociraptor 194.168.211.114 (talk) 09:37, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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